The Coronavirus, not the beer

Metaphysicist said:
Donald Trump is possibly the single most worthless person alive (I cannot think of even a single positive quality he possesses), but he has not done as much bad stuff as Xi. The limits placed on the office of the President constrains his ****tiness in a way that the "constitution" of China does not constrain Xi.
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Worthless eh.

Someone said China was evil.
Someone said that globalism would hurt us.
Someone said borders were necessary.

And now he would be as bad as Xi if he had the chance.

Higher education is a crippling force now in the world.
 
Runnin said:
I thought this was apparent the first time. This is exactly why you don't want the idiot President going on tv and saying the things he does to his idiot followers, present company not excluded, of course.

Correction: The original Associated Press article on this story noted the couple took chloroquine — implying they took a prescribed drug. According to the treating hospital, the couple took chloroquine phosphate which can be purchased at a pet store.

The article was correct and left out nothing.
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There are always Darin Award Winners.
 
thethe said:
The virus is much less deadly than originally thought. Probably another war tactic by china. However it didnt stop anyone from questioning and trying to destroy the economy.

Well hey...it hurts trump so why not.
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According to who? Health experts in the US have pretty much maintained the mortality rate to be around 1 percent (which is significantly lower than what WHO is reporting). So far, that's been fairly accurate with all the information we have available.
 
"No one could have seen this coming"





Says the guy who fired the pandemic response team.





Just now getting to Trumps press confrence from yesterday. Its hilariously bad. Wheres Dr Fauchi?
 
Carp said:
According to who? Health experts in the US have pretty much maintained the mortality rate to be around 1 percent (which is significantly lower than what WHO is reporting). So far, that's been fairly accurate with all the information we have available.
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You literally answered your question in your response.

Plus the US rate is lower and that's ignoring the denominator is severely understated.
 
thethe said:
You literally answered your question in your response.

Plus the US rate is lower and that's ignoring the denominator is severely understated.
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Around 1 percent is still incredibly high for a virus with a potential to infect 1/3 of the population (if we went back to normal life as you suggest). You're talking, on the high end, about 2 million Americans dead. And that's with no regard to the impact it'll have on our health system.

There is nothing to suggest that the rate is likely to be significantly lower than 1 percent at this time. But even if it were .5 percent, you're still talking about potentially 500k-1 million Americans dead if we don't take the necessary steps to stop the spread of this virus.
 
thethe said:
You literally answered your question in your response.

Plus the US rate is lower and that's ignoring the denominator is severely understated.
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Around 1 percent is still incredibly high for a virus with a potential to infect 1/3 of the population (if we went back to normal life as you suggest). You're talking, on the high end, about 2 million Americans dead. And that's with no regard to the impact it'll have on our health system.

There is nothing to suggest that the rate is likely to be significantly lower than 1 percent at this time. But even if it were .5 percent, you're still talking about potentially 500k-1 million Americans dead if we don't take the necessary steps to stop the spread of this virus.
 
Carp said:
Around 1 percent is still incredibly high for a virus with a potential to infect 1/3 of the population (if we went back to normal life as you suggest). You're talking, on the high end, about 2 million Americans dead. And that's with no regard to the impact it'll have on our health system.

There is nothing to suggest that the rate is likely to be significantly lower than 1 percent at this time. But even if it were .5 percent, you're still talking about potentially 500k-1 million Americans dead if we don't take the necessary steps to stop the spread of this virus.
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Nobody is arguing going back like it was. Tske precaution for the at risk population.

Death rate if properly evaluated would be lower than .5 I think. You have people who get it without showing symptoms ever. Those are not counted and could account for over half of the infected population.
 
Let's say 100 million people in this country get infected. And 0.5% die of it. That's still 500,000. The annual toll from the flu is about 50,000.

It's a big deal any way you slice it.
 
nsacpi said:
Let's say 100 million people in this country get infected. And 0.5% die of it. That's still 500,000. The annual toll from the flu is about 50,000.

It's a big deal any way you slice it.
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A couple of tenths of a percent either way make a big deal. If hyroxychloroquine actually works then the death rate plummets.
 
almost 4,000 deaths in Italy in the past week

our population is over 5 times as large

we have to be prepared for deaths totalling about 20,000 per week...i hope it won't be that bad, but it is a distinct possibility
 
nsacpi said:
almost 4,000 deaths in Italy in the past week

our population is over 5 times as large

we have to be prepared for deaths totalling about 20,000 per week...i hope it won't be that bad, but it is a distinct possibility
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Not homogeneous populations.

A factor should be applied buy not just population multiples.
 
thethe said:
Nobody is arguing going back like it was. Tske precaution for the at risk population.

Death rate if properly evaluated would be lower than .5 I think. You have people who get it without showing symptoms ever. Those are not counted and could account for over half of the infected population.
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You have no way of knowing that. There is nothing to suggest that is true.

There are also those deaths that have occurred and will continue to occur that aren't accounted for either. We've not even tested 100k people.
 
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i don't think things will get as bad as they are in Italy...that's a worst case scenario...but it will be plenty bad...the numbers in New York City are just awful..Long Island and Northern NJ also looking bad...Florida will get slammed and the lack of a responsible response by state government there will make it worse...Louisiana has a nasty cluster...the rest of the country won't get spared either...things will just proceed with a lag
 
Carp said:
You have no way of knowing that. There is nothing to suggest that is true.

There are also those deaths that have occurred and will continue to occur that aren't accounted for either. We've not even tested 100k people.
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You serious?

I think you need to research more on this sir.
 
thethe said:
You serious?

I think you need to research more on this sir.
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Everything suggests that at this time, the US rate is likely around 1 percent. It COULD be less. There is nothing to indicate the rate is LIKELY less than .5 percent. What is possible and what is likely are 2 completely separate points.
 
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