The death rate is the death rate. Whether or not people were protected and the realistic possibility of actually doing so is a separate argument. Having the whole country go about their business as usual certainly wasn't going to protect these same people.
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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The death rate is the death rate. Whether or not people were protected and the realistic possibility of actually doing so is a separate argument. Having the whole country go about their business as usual certainly wasn't going to protect these same people.
People going about their business had absolutely no impact on those that were killed because of horrible policies.
And understanding what the death rate is as a result of these policies is key when determining what hte best course of action is in the future.
nsacpi
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I was taking you up on your bet of a "huge amount of money" that you posted your opposition to it in real time. The only thing I can find in the Wall thread from you since the "emergency" reallocation of funds is something about Obama.
As I said it is too much to ask for anyone to be consistent in their posting around here. But I'm glad that now that I bring it up you consider the reallocation of funds for building the wall without congressional approval to be an act of tyranny.
zbhargrove
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The facts are that Trump and his supporters keep moving the goalposts on how many deaths are acceptable...
zbhargrove
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Poor local and state policies were directly responsible for thousands of deaths in Hurricane Katrina... it was still a catastrophe
sturg33
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Maybe you should check the trump thread next
When was a number provided and by whom? When was that changed?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
crickets there too
Those aren't the numbers he was referencing so not sure why you are quoting these.
The IFR should and will end up normalizing to .1% btw
zbhargrove
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Maybe not the exact numbers but its the same phenomena. Because the arguments just keep changing... as it gets worse, the conspiracy/hoax/trump crowd keeps being more acceptable with it.
Its not getting worse. Quite the opposite.
zbhargrove
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Okay thehe... even the White House is saying the peak keeps being projected later and later.... 1,000 to 3,000 Americans dying per day through June... but sure... quite the opposite.
sturg33
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You can venmo me the $10k we agreed on
Well right now we just had our lowest death count in a month so I will wait and see how accurate these projections are since Trumps administration followed models that proved to be wrong for the most essential aspect of the virus.
But again, if you'd like to go over detail by detail as to why the virus is far less deadly and impactful than what we thought in mid-march I'd be happy to do that with you.
zbhargrove
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Nope, I'm done with this for right now. I'm going back to work. You're going to believe whatever you want to believe even though the experts are saying otherwise.
zbhargrove
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It is a belief... the worlds foremost epidemiologists and experts disagree with you... based on said data. But I'm relieved to know that we have someone smarter and more well informed than them on this board.
Also I'd be wary of looking at trends on the weekend and Monday... I've noticed there has been less testing and delayed death reporting the past few weeks at the end of the weekend and beginning of the week.
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Except that stats suggest this is not true.
We literally have enough data from the hardest hit places to know that the IFR literally can't be .1% or anywhere close.
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