The Coronavirus, not the beer

nsacpi said:
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The world freaked out because of idiots like Neil Ferguson. If we just protected the elderly and let the virus run its course, LIKE EVERY OTHER CONTAGIOUS RESPIRTORY VIRUS, we would have had fewer deaths than we did now.

Just another example how our leaders and experts are clueless.
 
Man, all those pictures of crowded beaches. We better see some uptick on infections or else there will be hell to pay for the hell we were forced into
 
thethe said:
The world freaked out because of idiots like Neil Ferguson. If we just protected the elderly and let the virus run its course, LIKE EVERY OTHER CONTAGIOUS RESPIRTORY VIRUS, we would have had fewer deaths than we did now.

Just another example how our leaders and experts are clueless.
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Stop spewing musings as if they're facts.

We know that based on results 70K people died from COVID 19 who's data is quantified. We have at least 13K dead who wouldn't be dead and are working age. Those are people who's cause of death is just COVID 19. And we won't know that real number because we don't know when this started and how it hit.
 
Nursing home deaths have been a topic of interest. I've dug around for data by state and country. This is what I have so far:

NY: 20% of COVID deaths are nursing home residents

Florida about 40%.

Some states, such as Minnesota, are at 80%

Among Scandinavian countries Sweden at about 40%, FINLAND 50% and Norway 60%.
 
Anders Tegnell has said that Sweden's main failing has been not protecting people in assisted living and nursing home facilities. This seems to me to be a self-serving narrative. Sweden has not suffered disproportionate deaths in those facilities compared to its neighbors. What it has suffered is more deaths period. Many more on a per capita basis.

Now it wants borders reopened for the summer tourist season. Its neighbors say not so fast. A sensible position in light of what is happening on the ground.
 
nsacpi said:
Anders Tegnell has said that Sweden's main failing has been not protecting people in assisted living and nursing home facilities. This seems to me to be a self-serving narrative. Sweden has not suffered disproportionate deaths in those facilities compared to its neighbors. What it has suffered is more deaths period. Many more on a per capita basis.

Now it wants borders reopened for the summer tourist season. Its neighbors say not so fast. A sensible position in light of what is happening on the ground.
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Since Sweden is open and their neighbors are not, wouldn't it make more sense to compare them all when the neighbors have been open the for the same time period?
 
thethe said:
I'm using what Dr. Birx said.

Follow along scientist.
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No I understand you only choose to repeat only numbers you cherry pick from only doctors your cherry pick. Of course, you even fail to quote the number correctly from what she said. She didn't say the 25% number was hard and fast... she said "up to."

Fact of the matter is, she's also just pulling a number out of her ass because there's no way to have an accurate number at this time and its also ignoring deaths that have been missed. Carry on internet hero.

Even if the absurd 25% number is accurate... that would still be ~75,000 deaths... a far cry from the sub 12,000 you promised us... more wrong information from thethe, big surprise.
 
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