The 2020 Draft Thread

Heyward said:
I dont think they took him as a RP reading up on what some people who cover the team are saying.
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yeah but have you considered how many scouting reports i read for free online?
look i’ve been wrong over and over on player eval but will that stop me from making a snap judgement?
 
striker42 said:
Considering most teams have you thinking their first rounder is the next unanimous HOF choice, this seems like faint praise.
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If this is what they were looking for, what does that say about what they think of Muller or Davidson (who both have better stuff)?
 
striker42 said:
Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

Seems like a high risk low reward player.
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it is amazing how simplistic you think this all is.
if Shewmake can’t play a position he’ll become a cobbler
 
clvclv said:
Unfortunately the one you're describing was a HS kid.

Has been a while since Winston Salem was a cold weather area.
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He's from Massachusetts, and played HS there; so, if you buy it takes those sorts of kids longer to develop, it's no surprise he was just turning a corner at Wake.

Of course, he's older now than when Mike Soroka started his rookie season, and that dude grew up in Calgary.
 
striker42 said:
I'm so tired of taking guys who project as middle of the rotation starters at best.
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I mean unless you're picking top 10ish, you aren't getting anyone projected to be a TOR starter. Soroka was projected as a No. 3 starter when he was drafted.

If there any year to complain about draft picks, this isn't the year. It's way more of shot in the dark than normal. At least Shuster had some helium this year.
 
striker42 said:
Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

Seems like a high risk low reward player.
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That's the thing for me - the chances of getting an "impact player" at #25 are incredibly slim to begin with, but if you take someone with fringy tools there's no chance you get one.
 
Super said:
yeah but have you considered how many scouting reports i read for free online?
look i’ve been wrong over and over on player eval but will that stop me from making a snap judgement?
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I dont love the pick but this isnt a Gilmartin pick. He has way better stuff than he did.
 
clvclv said:
That's the thing for me - the chances of getting an "impact player" at #25 are incredibly slim to begin with, but if you take someone with fringy tools there's no chance you get one.
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So basically you'll complain just to complain, makes sense.
 
Carp said:
I mean unless you're picking top 10ish, you aren't getting anyone projected to be a TOR starter. Soroka was projected as a No. 3 starter when he was drafted.

If there any year to complain about draft picks, this isn't the year. It's way more of shot in the dark than normal. At least Shuster had some helium this year.
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This is the year to avoid helium. Season got cancelled so early that there's so little that can be read from it.
 
striker42 said:
Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

Seems like a high risk low reward player.
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I'd say Shuster seems like a high-risk, moderate-reward player. But I also don't think, given his profile, that the Braves selected him thinking he's a likely reliever—which was the contention of some.

I'm also hoping he's a player they've been tracking, and have seen things the media experts and draft publications haven't. The absurd whiff% he gets on his changeup, plus some of the data on the raw material of his slider, makes me think the Braves feel he could be successful even if he's more 92-94 than 95-97.
 
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jpx7 said:
He's from Massachusetts, and played HS there; so, if you buy it takes those sorts of kids longer to develop, it's no surprise he was just turning a corner at Wake.

Of course, he's older now than when Mike Soroka started his rookie season, and that dude grew up in Calgary.
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It's taken him four years away from cold weather to turn into what he has so far - how much longer might it take him to be something to get excited about?
 
zbhargrove said:
Well, the Braves don't think he's a reliever for one... Kiley had him at 31... its a reach and its not exciting, but depending on how the rest of the draft goes, it could easily still be a solid pick.
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If Law and McDaniel both had him 31 or lower and Callis had him in the same range, it's not necessarily a reach.

It's very Braves-y.
 
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