2020 Trade Deadline Thread

Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.




Bundy is finally breaking out? Absolutely loved him as a prospect.
 
Who can compile a list of durable SPs on losing teams under control for this year, or this year plus next year? The SPs AA trades for will likely come from that list.

Lance Lynn
Mike Minor
Dylan Bundy
Nathan Eovaldi
Robbie Ray
Alex Cobb
Marco Gonzales
Taijuan Walker
Derek Holland
Joe Musgrove
 
Not an inspiring list of potential starting pitching targets. Martin Perez? I'd rather bring back former Braves' SS/2B Marty Perez. My disdain aside, Perez is a guy who can get on a roll and this is a season where a brief impressive stretch has inflated value.

In reference to HH's original post, I read that Boston may (and it was clearly an out-of-the-box thought by the writer) want to move Bogaerts and my immediate thought is that he'd be a great fit for the Braves if he'd move to 3B. Don't know what it would take to get him to Atlanta (or if he'd welcome a move to 3B) and he has an opt-out after 2022 (age 30). It seems like the kind of deal that Anthopoulos likes to make, but given how the trade market works this season, I don't know what it would take to fall in place. I do know that how some of the Braves' younger pitchers have done a world-class face-plant doesn't help in terms of value we have to move.

Of the names on the list, I think Walker and Eovaldi are the ones of greatest interest to me. Boyd is a classic buy-low guy, but he's really been terrible thus far in 2020.

Walker likely stands out as the top target. Beyond that, it probably depends on how much money AA can absorb - if any. Based on the fact that they can be had for the lowest names on our list and money to have to take on, I'd probably rank my preferences as...

Eovaldi
Duffy
Cobb
Boyd

Not inspiring to say the least, but if AA can take on that kind of money while adding Walker and one of those guys behind Fried at least gives you a puncher's chance given how good our offense and pen is - particularly if you can get something from Hamels, Folty, or Anderson in late September/October.
 
Bundy will regress. He's got the worst fastball in the majors. Even if he's throwing it less, you can't hide it. He's a junk baller now and a shell of his former self.
 
Bundy will regress. He's got the worst fastball in the majors. Even if he's throwing it less, you can't hide it. He's a junk baller now and a shell of his former self.

This is correct. Read an article on this recently in fact, they did an analysis of him for this season. Totally different pitcher.
 
Lance Lynn
Mike Minor
Dylan Bundy
Nathan Eovaldi
Robbie Ray
Alex Cobb
Marco Gonzales
Taijuan Walker
Derek Holland
Joe Musgrove

These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.
 
These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.

That's the point 50 was making, and I agreed with - not something you'd be overly excited about.

If Texas or Cleveland are going to be able to get a substantial return for Lynn, Clevinger, or Plesac AA has little choice. Other teams are mainly focused on Anderson, Muller, Pache, Waters, Contreras, and Langeliers at this point. If you can't get Texas to bite on a Wright/Newk/Touki offer for Lynn, you've got to start looking at those guys though. Cleveland isn't going to be interested without a serious offensive player in the deal, and I just don't see AA trading any of Pache, Waters, or Contreras. Langeliers isn't going to be enough to be considered a centerpiece for them (Contreras might not even be).

Offer the Orioles any one of Newk/Touki/Wilson for Cobb and they'll jerk your arm off. As of right now, he's a better option to start a playoff game than anyone we have not named Fried, Hamels, Folty, and potentially Anderson. The same probably goes for Eovaldi and Walker. If he can take on the money for Eovaldi or Cobb, trying to get Seager and at least one of the Seattle Pitchers makes sense. At that point you can look into putting Riley in a deal if another team's looking for offense.

In my dream scenario AA could turn Wright and Newk into Lynn to front the rotation the rest of the way and in 2021. Then he could turn Wilson and Touki into Seager, Walker, and cash. If all that worked, maybe he could turn Riley and Langeliers into Clevinger. That gives you Lynn, Fried, Clevinger, Walker as your first four SPs down the stretch and you see what you can get out of Erlin/Tomlin/Ynoa/Davidson/Weigel as Openers/piggyback guys until Anderson's completely ready and/or Hamels or Folty becomes an option. Soroka replaces Walker and Anderson steps into the 5th slot in 2021.
 
These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.

I mean as it stands we would have Tomlin and Erlin starting games 2 and 3. I'm sure there are upgrades over those two out there.
 
I mean as it stands we would have Tomlin and Erlin starting games 2 and 3. I'm sure there are upgrades over those two out there.

Oh definitely. But my point was most of these upgrades still don't give us much of a great chance to win. Would rather just see bullpen games with openers.
 
I wonder if you could convince the Mariners to take on Inciarte in a Seager trade. Good prospect+lottery ticket prospect+Inciarte for Seager. Would help with the 2021 money.
 
Can probably add Gausman and Cueto to this list as well.

is Gausman really possible when they've already dumped him for no apparent reason? there has to be an actual reason, we just don't know it, which leads me to believe it wasn't on-field related.
 
is Gausman really possible when they've already dumped him for no apparent reason? there has to be an actual reason, we just don't know it, which leads me to believe it wasn't on-field related.

They "dumped him" because they had enough other healthy starters at that time - unfortunately that's not the case now.

Really just adding names to the previous list since they weren't on it and we've learned that AA's usually looking somewhere the rest of the world isn't.
 
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Trade Deadline, regardless of today's outcome. The Atlanta rotation has accounted for a 5.37 ERA and 4 wins this year. Touki Toussaint, Sean Newcomb, and Kyle Wright are in the Minors.
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They "dumped him" because they had enough other healthy starters at that time - unfortunately that's not the case now.

Really just adding names to the previous list since they weren't on it and we've learned that AA's usually looking somewhere the rest of the world isn't.

i'm not sure why dumped him is in quotes. they DFA'd him, that's dumping a guy.
i don't think they had a ton of starters. Wilson was getting starts around that time.
 
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