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Carp said:
So he's a POS because he was taking drugs now, is that right? Are we pushing these goalposts again?

Whether he was a "good dude" or not for taking drugs is irrelevant. You said he was a POS for something he did years ago, which involved pointing a gun at pregnant woman (though on closer look, there is nothing I see saying she was pregnant), but didn't cause any physical damage to her. Jon Ponder on the other hand actually physically harmed someone (twice actually) along with 2 other armed robberies. But somehow he isn't a POS?

I'm just trying to get a gauge on your hypocrisy.
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Show me where it said the woman wasn't pregnant.

He robbed banks. I was a bank teller a long time ago and was robbed. Never felt in danger at all. The nature of the crimes couldn't be more different but continue your delusional tds because trump actually supports fair justice and you support resisting arresf.
 
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In general Blake isn't the best martyr. He had a violent criminal warrant against him, resisted arrest, then tried to leave the scene. I don't buy the he was reaching for a weapon argument, but police see what they want to see. But it's still part of an ongoing problem with the police and the black community, and even a deeper issue of police using unnecessary force in general. However, this particular case is more justified than the others being protested.


Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot and deserves to be locked up for a long time. He took a gun he wasn't supposed to have to a highly volatile area. He was clearly looking for a reason to use his gun, and he found it.
 
Carp said:
In general Blake isn't the best martyr. He had a violent criminal warrant against him, resisted arrest, then tried to leave the scene. I don't buy the he was reaching for a weapon argument, but police see what they want to see. But it's still part of an ongoing problem with the police and the black community, and even a deeper issue of police using unnecessary force in general. However, this particular case is more justified than the others being protested.


Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot and deserves to be locked up for a long time. He took a gun he wasn't supposed to have to a highly volatile area. He was clearly looking for a reason to use his gun, and he found it.
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Kyle will be cleared of all murder/manslaughter related charges.

When democrats refuse to protect the people its up to the people to protect.
 
It's too early to know whether Rittenhouse will be convicted as we don't know the full series of events. Looking at it from what we know right now a conviction might be difficult.

That being said, there's a huge difference between something not being criminal and something being right.

Any idiot who would go into the streets up there right now with a gun (protester and counterprotester alike) is not doing a good thing. The more firearms are being waved around the more people will feel threatened enough to use them.
 
thethe said:
Show me where it said the woman wasn't pregnant.

He robbed banks. I was a bank teller a long time ago and was robbed. Never felt in danger at all. The nature of the crimes couldn't be more different but continue your delusional tds because trump actually supports fair justice and you support resisting arresf.
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https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/

"The claims in this meme are a mixture of true and false, as we’ll document below. In brief, the alleged crimes and time periods are mostly accurate, with the caveat that Floyd was convicted of theft in 1998, not armed robbery. But the following information makes other aspects of the post misleading: Not all the crimes resulted in prison time, but rather jail sentences; no evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant;"

There is nothing in the arrest records or the court records that suggests she was pregnant. No one actually knows where this element came from, but there is no corroborating evidence to support she was pregnant.

I'm not sure what you're anecdotal experience has to do with this. Both participated in armed robbery, so trying to differentiate them is dumb. Only one of them committed domestic assault (twice) and it wasn't Floyd.
 
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thethe said:
Kyle will be cleared of all murder/manslaughter related charges.

When democrats refuse to protect the people its up to the people to protect.
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You are an idiot and the reason why people like that dude exists.

He will not be cleared. He carried a weapon he was not allowed to have (illegal), used said weapon to kill an unarmed citizen, then killed another citizen as he was trying to flee the scene.
 
Carp said:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/

"The claims in this meme are a mixture of true and false, as we’ll document below. In brief, the alleged crimes and time periods are mostly accurate, with the caveat that Floyd was convicted of theft in 1998, not armed robbery. But the following information makes other aspects of the post misleading: Not all the crimes resulted in prison time, but rather jail sentences; no evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant;"

There is nothing in the arrest records or the court records that suggests she was pregnant.

I'm not sure what you're anecdotal experience has to do with this. Both participated in armed robbery, so trying to differentiate them is dumb. Only one of them committed domestic assault (twice) and it wasn't Floyd.
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Forgive me if I don't treat snopes as the Bible. They may have a specific political preference.

Either way. Ponders crimes happened longer ago and he has shown a much clearer recovery. The comparison is just another irrelevant talking point.

Floyd was a scumbag who resisted arrest and died because of a drug OD. Congratulations for defending him.
 
Carp said:
You are an idiot and the reason why people like that dude exists.

He will not be cleared. He carried a weapon he was not allowed to have (illegal), used said weapon to kill an unarmed citizen, then killed another citizen as he was trying to flee the scene.
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Well then you need to follow the video evidence that is out because he was clearly acting in self defense.

But I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from the person who thinks cuomo hid nursing home deaths is a conspiracy.
 
thethe said:
Well then you need to follow the video evidence that is out because he was clearly acting in self defense.

But I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from the person who thinks cuomo hid nursing home deaths is a conspiracy.
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Have you read the Wisconsin self-defense laws? Not going to work for this one, if the video is any indication.
 
Dalyn said:
Have you read the Wisconsin self-defense laws? Not going to work for this one, if the video is any indication.
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As many things there is room for interpretation of all law. Thats what they'll fight it out in court.

He didn't take the first shot and was being assaulted by a proven violent mob when he fired again.
 
thethe said:
As many things there is room for interpretation of all law. Thats what they'll fight it out in court.

He didn't take the first shot and was being assaulted by a proven violent mob when he fired again.
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Oh, dude. It is messed up how much defending **** like this has distorted your world view. He had already killed someone, and he was approaching other people with his weapon. They were trying to stop a mass shooting.
 
The law in Wisconsin actually supports the people trying to subdue him as an act of self-defense.
 
Dalyn said:
Oh, dude. It is messed up how much defending **** like this has distorted your world view. He had already killed someone, and he was approaching other people with his weapon. They were trying to stop a mass shooting.
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A mass shooting? The guy was fired on first. We have seen this violent mob kill people this summer therefore its not unreasonable for him to believe his life was at risk.

We see a handgun in one shot that was bring drawm at the time of shooting.

Uts open and shut.

Trying to turn this into a mass shooting event is a ridiculous stretch.
 
Dalyn said:
Oh, dude. It is messed up how much defending **** like this has distorted your world view. He had already killed someone, and he was approaching other people with his weapon. They were trying to stop a mass shooting.
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A mass shooting? The guy was fired on first. We have seen this violent mob kill people this summer therefore its not unreasonable for him to believe his life was at risk.

We see a handgun in one shot that was bring drawm at the time of shooting.

Uts open and shut.

Trying to turn this into a mass shooting event is a ridiculous stretch.
 
In your scenario

Guy/kid from out of town and state

Shows up with gun

And y’all defending him cause someone else answered with a gun

Unreal which one you defend lol
 
goldfly said:
In your scenario

Guy/kid from out of town and state

Shows up with gun

And y’all defending him cause someone else answered with a gun

Unreal which one you defend lol
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Out of state is a deceiving narrative. He lived within 30 minutes of the location so its most certainly part of his home region.
 
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