He definitely hasn’t learned how to pitch but to say he isn’t talented is wrong.
His stuff is better then Wright’s or Newks.
He’s been terrible this year no doubt but it’s never been about his stuff just his Ability to locate and sequencing.
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He definitely hasn’t learned how to pitch but to say he isn’t talented is wrong.
His stuff is better then Wright’s or Newks.
He’s been terrible this year no doubt but it’s never been about his stuff just his Ability to locate and sequencing.
True.
I'd argue that's part of being talented.
Old timers like to call it million dollar arm but ten cent brain.
It seems to me if you followed his minor league career and early big league one that he’s a below average hitter with power who is as streaky as they come.
I hope he figures it out but I think that’s just who he is and we just have to hope he gets on another streak in two weeks.I’m sure guessing at the plate like Ensheff has pointed out is one of the reasons he’s not consistent
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most accurate thing you've posted all year
You could also call that experience
bravesfanMatt
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I missed the game. Did touki look good.
I still think our pitching coach is garbage. There is talk that tomlin told Wright to use the 3rd base side of rubber which helped his last start.
I still think our pitching coach is garbage. There is talk that tomlin told Wright to use the 3rd base side of rubber which helped his last start.
Maybe. But I don't think he needs more experience to be able to throw strikes. He just can't do it.
very good actually
i'm sorry, had you stopped thinking it was garbage for some reason?
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I try to keep telling myself coaching at MLB doesn’t make a difference. But man we have seen some young guys just fall flat.
He moved to the 1B side.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Right. Your 1st base side but my 3rd base side. It is not that hard.
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The history of baseball is littered with guys who had electric stuff but simply couldn't put it all together. At the risk of sounding repetitive, I think Toussaint is another one of our guys who was rushed a bit. He probably should have spent all of 2018 in Mississippi, but found himself in Gwinnett and then Atlanta before the season was through. He's a high risk/high reward guy and maybe he puts it together and you have something, but he hasn't looked good this year. I'll leave it to Enscheff to give me the particulars as to what is--or more notably, what isn't--working for him, but the basic point is that he doesn't appear to have the ability to throw quality pitches in the strike zone at this point.
Which (to also pile on to earlier rants from me as well) appears to be an organizational problem - particularly at the upper levels.
There isn't any legitimate question about the TALENT stockpiled during the rebuild, it's about being able to make adjustments and taking steps forward. The fact that it took Tomlin to make suggestions that seem to have helped Wright and (particularly) Minter is certainly concerning though. Don't think you can hang it all on Kranitz, but he hasn't exactly been the top guy anywhere with significant SP development (that I can recall) and you at least have to wonder a little about whether the reason he got this job had as much to do with the fact that he followed Leo in Baltimore as anything else. It's not like Philly developed any Pitchers of note between 2016 and 2018 or Milwaukee had anyone homegrown while he was there. Gallardo was pretty good, but that's probably the best Pitcher he handled - and he already had two and a half full seasons under his belt before Kranitz got that job.