No All Star Game in Atlanta This Season?

[nsacpi]

I guess as an attorney I'm a believer in the process. That if you have a grievance, the way to address it is through the process. Lobbying, campaigning, and voting.

I feel like using a power like ostracism is a form of vigilante justice. Vigilantism isnt constrained by the limits process is. It can be done based on real or imagined harms. There is no check on it.

I also don't trust vigilantism like ostracism to reach correct results. Look how it's been used in the past. There was a time an inter racial couple would be ostracized or a homosexual person.

So I say use the process and don't give in to the seduction of quick results vigilantism presents. Those results often come with a price.

It is a form of vigilantism. Scarlet A and all that.

 

[Deester11]

You introduced race into the conversation and implied that was our intention. So in reality you did call the race card.

You should dwell on that.

And those damn blacks that don’t fall in line. Typical response from a pathetic woke white liberal.

Call it what you want. I'm sure your knowledge of blacks surpass mine. Call it the race card like you call people libs and woke when your argument is stupid. You should dwell on the things you think are good for you.

 

[nsacpi]

I believe that 90% or more of the voting public are low information voters, so by sheer numbers most of those would have to be white. People across all races, religions, political parties, etc. don't bother to take the time to educate themselves on issues or candidates beyond what their preferred disinformation outlet tells them.

Low information voter is a slur that works both ways. A lot of trumpophilic folk strike me as low info, to put it mildly. I'm dismayed at their coming out in droves to vote for their guy. But I would never think about trying to tinker with voting laws to suppress their turnout. I'd rather take my chances on trying to persuade them of the evil and folly of their ways. Maybe bribe them with some H2O.

 

[thethe]

Call it what you want. I'm sure your knowledge of blacks surpass mine. Call it the race card like you call people libs and woke when your argument is stupid. You should dwell on the things you think are good for you.

I just see results of almost uniform control by democrats. Want to fix the situation for black people? Ask for different leadership and ask why progress has been so limited. When all you hear are different renditions of racism holds you back then you realize there are no real solutions on the table.

 

[jsebe10]

There are plenty of low information voters on the right as well.

You bet...and they are 9/9 deemed “racist”....That’s not even debatable

 

[jpx7]

There are emergency powers governors or the President could invoke to ensure the supply chain continues. If the POTUS refused to step in and force shipments to a state, not sure what could be done.

I'll give a disclosure on my views on Citizens United. I believe it was correctly decided under the current law. However, I would support a Constitutional amendment that limits the influence of organizations.

Citizens United is, however, a perfect thing to bring up now. The left went nuts over it due to the influence it gave corporations over the political process. Today the left cheers on a corporation trying to influence the political process.

Conversely the right cheered Citizens United as a victory for free speech. Today a corporation exercised that right and the right howled in rage.

Hypocrites all.

I think MLB should have kept it's mouth shut and focused on baseball. I'd say the same of it was a democrat bill targeting rural voters.

I'm anti-corporate, so I'm pretty consistently a critic of corporate behavior whether their posture is openly fascist, a façade of progressive scruples, or anything in between. I liken MLB's decision today, or Nike's partnership with Kapernick, or the recent host of other very-public corporate wokenings to green-washing initiatives: hand-waving and lip-service designed to make consumers feel better about their consumption—maybe even make them think of their favorite brands as benevolent caretakers—while distracting the public from the terrible behaviors that actually derive from their profit motives (usually over-exploitation of labor and natural resources, externalizing all risks and internalizing all profits, consolidating control over means of production, dodging all responsibility to the common weal, &c). Throwing some bones to "social justice"—even when the causes themselves are actually really important—doesn't really change any of that.

The only positive I see is that obviously the market has dictated that more people are in favor of protecting voting rights, LBGTQ+ rights, averting catastrophic climate change, &c, than are opposed, such that they're the overwhelming important constituency. But while that might be a positive bellwether of our population's stances, it doesn't really change how I feel about big corporations.

 

[Deester11]

I just see results of almost uniform control by democrats. Want to fix the situation for black people? Ask for different leadership and ask why progress has been so limited. When all you hear are different renditions of racism holds you back then you realize there are no real solutions on the table.

Guess perhaps that's the difference in my view and others. I don't look to politicians and snake oil salesmen to ascertain my worth. One thing is consistent, I see no changes. But I'm not attached to a party. I'm attached to who had my best interest.

That being said, you keep putting people in a certain group because they don't think like you. That's your prerogative but I'm not like anybody but me. BLM didn't speak for me anymore than that T guy did. I do know that I refuse to let you or anybody else tell me how I'm supposed to feel as a minority. I outlined my thoughts as Sturg asked others to do. You don't have to agree I could care less.

 

[weso1]

97% of registered voters in Georgia already have an id. A decent chunk of those won't vote and another decent chunk will get an id. That leaves a small percentage that will not vote that other wise would have. A decent chunk of those voters would have voted republican. So the actual impact of the new voter id law is likely minimal, although certainly you can't rule out that it could affect a future super close election. I don't think the Georgia GOP saw this new bill as a way to suppress votes, but more as a way to make sure the trump base shows up in 2022. Although I would add that I think in 2020 we saw a larger than usual number of super reluctant voters show up in certain spots. And this bill makes it less likely that we'll see that again. Probably why dems are so upset. Is that voter suppression?

I personally believe that folks should be allowed to sign a sworn affidavit that they were unable to obtain an id due to extenuating circumstances. That would give you a small pool of votes to authenticate and if you see something odd then it can be looked into.

Cancelling the all star game was just silly virtue signaling with obvious hypocrisies and giving into the mob/sleeping giants type. The only way to fight back is to stop watching, so I personally won't be watching MLB this season early on, which kind of sucks.

 

[Runnin]

If casting a single vote means having to stand in line for hours, then clean, safe water and a bathroom should be provided at the site. Put that in the voting rights bill!

 

[nsacpi]

Marjorie Taylor Greene asked "The MLB" to stop listening to its "communist corporate sponsors."

I take that as my little ray of sunshine from this mess of a situation.

Sounds like she and jpx have reached a meeting of the minds on the evils of big corporations.

 

[Runnin]

MLB has the right to change the site of their All-Star Game. It sucks but blame this one on the Republicans of Georgia and the knuckle draggers who enable them. They passed a hugely unpopular law and now have to deal with the blow back. It's the American way.

 

[weso1]

If casting a single vote means having to stand in line for hours, then clean, safe water and a bathroom should be provided at the site. Put that in the voting rights bill!

I've seen this propaganda get a lot of play on left wing twitter. This part of the bill is clearly trying to prevent certain actors from providing gifts as motivation for voters to vote a certain way (I think I read that someone was handing out pizza). If voting rights advocates are really concerned about this, then they can place water dispensers with cone cups along the line of voters, and allow polling workers to fill the cup if necessary. A very simple solution.

 

[Deester11]

Marjorie Taylor Greene asked "The MLB" to stop listening to its "communist corporate sponsors."

I take that as my little ray of sunshine from this mess of a situation.

Sounds like she and jpx have reached a meeting of the minds on the evils of big corporations.

Well if that nut job says it's good, alien babies can't be far behind...

 

[nsacpi]

I've seen this propaganda get a lot of play on left wing twitter. This part of the bill is clearly trying to prevent certain actors from providing gifts as motivation for voters to vote a certain way (I think I read that someone was handing out pizza). If voting rights advocates are really concerned about this, then they can place water dispensers with cone cups along the line of voters, and allow polling workers to fill the cup if necessary. A very simple solution.

when i go to vote i want my bribe

Years ago during my commute to work I ran across Frank Lautenberg and Jon Corzine. Two very wealthy guys. I asked them if they wanted my vote. My wit was lost on them.

 

[Deester11]

I've seen this propaganda get a lot of play on left wing twitter. This part of the bill is clearly trying to prevent certain actors from providing gifts as motivation for voters to vote a certain way (I think I read that someone was handing out pizza). If voting rights advocates are really concerned about this, then they can place water dispensers with cone cups along the line of voters, and allow polling workers to fill the cup if necessary. A very simple solution.

Probably not...the left will write inside the cups...

 

[jpx7]

Marjorie Taylor Greene asked "The MLB" to stop listening to its "communist corporate sponsors."

I take that as my little ray of sunshine from this mess of a situation.

Sounds like she and jpx have reached a meeting of the minds on the evils of big corporations.

We've heard a lot about "low information voters" in this thread—she's what you get when that turns into "low information representative".

It's hilarious to me that she's employing the oxymoron of "communist corporate sponsors" to bemoan the free-market, in this case, doing its thing.

 

[weso1]

Marjorie Taylor Greene asked "The MLB" to stop listening to its "communist corporate sponsors."

I take that as my little ray of sunshine from this mess of a situation.

Sounds like she and jpx have reached a meeting of the minds on the evils of big corporations.

Trump voters and moderate democrats actually have a lot of intersecting interests.

 

[Deester11]

Trump voters and moderate democrats actually have a lot of intersecting interests.

Definitely. I've been all over that demon sex thing!

 

[jpx7]

when i go to vote i want my vibe

FIFY

 

[goldfly]

a whole lot of people just lost good paying jobs this summer

You should remember that when you vote republican

They don’t care about those jobs etc

They care about holding power

But literally losing out on money is the point

Actions have consequences