Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Have you just not paid attention to many trials? The accused almost never testifies, because it's far too easy for a prosecutor to manipulate the questioning. The old "when did you stop beating your wife?" method.
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Have you just not paid attention to many trials? The accused almost never testifies, because it's far too easy for a prosecutor to manipulate the questioning. The old "when did you stop beating your wife?" method.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
LOL.
The officer used excessive force, the man asked for help and repeatedly said he couldn't breathe, the officer refused to yield from using excessive force or give medical aid, then the man died. That's an open and shut case. Had he yielded and administered aid when it was requested and he still died, you would have a case. As it stands, he 100% contributed to this man's death, without question.
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Do you enjoy making up your own facts? His own superior officers are on record stating that is not something he was trained to do.
The official training manual can’t be wiped away from history.
I’m not surprised you’re slow to obvious facts.
He said he couldn’t breathe even before he was touched.
Use of force experts testified chauvin did everything right.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
words for the ages
Just summarizing what was said by experts.
Prone position was used correctly and in the appropriate situation. No knee to Floyd’s neck.
I know you don’t care for the Anglo Saxon justice system. You’ve made that clear and effectively would like to rip everything that made this country great down. But In this country you have to prove guilt and not innocence.
The official training manual doesn't say that. There's a picture of what appears to have someone kneeling on a man's neck. The angle is unclear and it could simply be someone kneeling. Needless to say, this argument is super weak. More importantly, nowhere does it state in the manual that this is an acceptable means of force or an appropriate restraining method.
In fact, the words right next to the picture literally state "place the subject in the recovery position to alleviate positional asphyxia."
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Chauvin and the prosecutors agreed to a plea deal on murder 3 last summer. The DoJ (under Barr) nixed that.
I guess you missed the body cam footage eh?
That's irrelevant. Cops have a duty to give medical aid to detainees. And the moment he stopped breathing was a good indicator that perhaps he should administer medical aid.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE. (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
I could have understood a manslaughter conviction. I couldn't have voted to convict him as guilty of it beyond a reasonable doubt, but I could have understood it. But I can't see his actions as perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, not when it's part of training, not when I've seen so many LEOs both publicly and privately say his restraint was appropriate, not when the guy had more drugs in him than a Columbian drug mule.
I’d love to return to a 19th century culture without slavery or Jim Crow.
This would be an incredible country.
I watched every tragic minute actually. It's disgusting that you could come up with the conclusions you do.
The officers catered to Floyd for a long period of time and then he decided to violently resist arrest. At that point officers are in a much different position.