The Coronavirus, not the beer

This reminds of trying to talk about anything here with some certain posters

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The point he is making is he wants to be on a flight that is reasonably safe for him to not get a potentially deadly virus. If the airline wont provide that he will make other arraignments. I dont imagine theres a big market for flights where they let everyone on with no screening. I bet you wouldnt even go on that flight
 
The point he is making is he wants to be on a flight that is reasonably safe for him to not get a potentially deadly virus. If the airline wont provide that he will make other arraignments. I dont imagine theres a big market for flights where they let everyone on with no screening. I bet you wouldnt even go on that flight

We could let the market sort out your last couple of sentences. Have vaccine-only flights and have flights with no screening. Let people self sort and see how it plays out.
 
Dan Price
@DanPriceSeattle

If you think it's oppressive for corporations to require vaccines,

wait 'til you hear about unpaid internships, mandated overtime,

unpaid sick days, raiding of retirement funds, non-compete agreements

for fast-food workers, everything Amazon does,

at-will employment agreements,
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/health/cdc-masks-vaccinated-transmission.html



Q: Nearly all public-health authorities in the country are urging people to get vaccines. We see the incredible results that the vaccines have had and how many lives they’re saving, and still the F.D.A. has not offered full, permanent approval of the vaccine. President Biden suggested it might take several more months. How do you understand that, or how can that be defended, if it can be?

A: I find it incredibly puzzling what exactly the F.D.A. is doing. The F.D.A. says that it typically takes them six months or sometimes as much as a year to fully approve a new product. And, generally, we appreciate that. There are two components to that. One is that they want to see a large amount of data, and they want to go through that carefully, and I think that’s essential. Then the second is that there’s a process, which can take a while. This is a global emergency, and while all of us want to make sure that the F.D.A. does its job, most of us also feel that just operating on standard procedures may not be the right thing to do here, and that there are things that can be sped up. Just as with the development of vaccines, we didn’t cut any corners. We did all the steps, but we did it much, much faster. The F.D.A. has to go much, much faster.

The other thing about the data—the amount of data that the vaccines have generated, the number of people who’ve been vaccinated, and the scrutiny that the data has received. I mean, my goodness, this data has been scrutinized and looked over more than—

Q: I’d imagine it’s more than any data in modern history, right?

A: Any therapy, any vaccine ever. These are the most highly scrutinized medical products we have ever had, and I don’t understand what the F.D.A. is doing.


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^ Ashish Jha, dean of the School of Public Health at Brown University
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/health/cdc-masks-vaccinated-transmission.html



Q: Nearly all public-health authorities in the country are urging people to get vaccines. We see the incredible results that the vaccines have had and how many lives they’re saving, and still the F.D.A. has not offered full, permanent approval of the vaccine. President Biden suggested it might take several more months. How do you understand that, or how can that be defended, if it can be?

A: I find it incredibly puzzling what exactly the F.D.A. is doing. The F.D.A. says that it typically takes them six months or sometimes as much as a year to fully approve a new product. And, generally, we appreciate that. There are two components to that. One is that they want to see a large amount of data, and they want to go through that carefully, and I think that’s essential. Then the second is that there’s a process, which can take a while. This is a global emergency, and while all of us want to make sure that the F.D.A. does its job, most of us also feel that just operating on standard procedures may not be the right thing to do here, and that there are things that can be sped up. Just as with the development of vaccines, we didn’t cut any corners. We did all the steps, but we did it much, much faster. The F.D.A. has to go much, much faster.

The other thing about the data—the amount of data that the vaccines have generated, the number of people who’ve been vaccinated, and the scrutiny that the data has received. I mean, my goodness, this data has been scrutinized and looked over more than—

Q: I’d imagine it’s more than any data in modern history, right?

A: Any therapy, any vaccine ever. These are the most highly scrutinized medical products we have ever had, and I don’t understand what the F.D.A. is doing.


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^ Ashish Jha, dean of the School of Public Health at Brown University

The point about the amount of data (highly scrutinized data at that) is a very good one.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/health/cdc-masks-vaccinated-transmission.html



Q: Nearly all public-health authorities in the country are urging people to get vaccines. We see the incredible results that the vaccines have had and how many lives they’re saving, and still the F.D.A. has not offered full, permanent approval of the vaccine. President Biden suggested it might take several more months. How do you understand that, or how can that be defended, if it can be?

A: I find it incredibly puzzling what exactly the F.D.A. is doing. The F.D.A. says that it typically takes them six months or sometimes as much as a year to fully approve a new product. And, generally, we appreciate that. There are two components to that. One is that they want to see a large amount of data, and they want to go through that carefully, and I think that’s essential. Then the second is that there’s a process, which can take a while. This is a global emergency, and while all of us want to make sure that the F.D.A. does its job, most of us also feel that just operating on standard procedures may not be the right thing to do here, and that there are things that can be sped up. Just as with the development of vaccines, we didn’t cut any corners. We did all the steps, but we did it much, much faster. The F.D.A. has to go much, much faster.

The other thing about the data—the amount of data that the vaccines have generated, the number of people who’ve been vaccinated, and the scrutiny that the data has received. I mean, my goodness, this data has been scrutinized and looked over more than—

Q: I’d imagine it’s more than any data in modern history, right?

A: Any therapy, any vaccine ever. These are the most highly scrutinized medical products we have ever had, and I don’t understand what the F.D.A. is doing.


—————

^ Ashish Jha, dean of the School of Public Health at Brown University

More people would get the vaccine if they A) got FDA approval and B) removed the liability waiver for the companies producing it.
 
Chris Hayes
@chrislhayes
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You’re telling me I have to buckle my seatbelt even though I

have airbags!!! Either the airbags work or the seatbelt works

but it can’t be both!!!


this really isnt hard. Unless ...
 
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