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I thought he was impressive in spring training and after half a season of raking in AAA he looked even better to me in the two games he just started. Obviously, not a finished product. Among other things he'll have to improve some against major league breaking balls.

The question I throw open to this discussion is this: Do you see Joey T as potentially being a player who could play corner outfield or first for a championship ball club?

I do.

Which leads to a second question:

Does the emergence of Joey T (and Gattis) have any implications with regards to how we treat Heyward, Freeman and Justin Upton in terms of contract negotiations?
 
I do think Joey can be a productive everyday player. But unfortunately it won't be for us. He could be an asset off the bench for years for us but I think that's not proper value. I think he's trade bait.
 
emk418 said:
I do think Joey can be a productive everyday player. But unfortunately it won't be for us. He could be an asset off the bench for years for us but I think that's not proper value. I think he's trade bait.
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I agree with this! Hopefully he's the new DH/1B/OF for the Minnesota Twins(trade for Perkins)
 
With Reed Johnson on 1 year and Shafer being a good trade asset (better than Joey) and Joey being a switch hitter I think he stays around for next spring training and goes for the 4th OF spot.
 
nsacpi said:
Which leads to a second question:

Does the emergence of Joey T (and Gattis) have any implications with regards to how we treat Heyward, Freeman and Justin Upton in terms of contract negotiations?
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Wait, is that a serious question?
 
don't see a spot for him long term as he has flunked 3b and he's blocked by better players at the other 3 spots. Apparently he is not a vialble option at CF either, which is too bad because we need one. In fact, I'd rather see Costanza as a 5th OF until Schafer is back. More useful coming off the bench than Joey T. Bunt, pinch run, steal a base (egad!) late inning defense guy.

I'd platoon Costanza and Reed in CF until BJ becomes a functional player again, whenever that may be. Reed is pretty worthless vs RHP and I don't think he plays a good CF.
 
nsacpi said:
Which leads to a second question:

Does the emergence of Joey T (and Gattis) have any implications with regards to how we treat Heyward, Freeman and Justin Upton in terms of contract negotiations?
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No

Freddie, Justin and Jason are here for 2 more seasons after this. If Terdo proves himself and asset he'll be traded before then, and other guys from further down the system will replace one of them. Same with Gattis. If we keep Mac, Gattis will be traded. I'd love him to be moved to 3B but that won't happen.
 
I think we should find out what we have before we trade him though. He has looked good everytime he has played with the big league club (small sample alert!)
 
I don't think he should just be traded because we have no spot. I also don't think he will be viewed as a major piece in a deal unless its for a lower type reliever ( not perkins.
 
If the Braves had the DH the answer would be yes. Unfortunately Joey T isn't good enough to play any defensive position good enough to have his offense cover up his defensive shortcomings. I think an AL team desperate for offense from the DH spot (especially a team in playoff contention such as the Rays) would love to have Joey T and the Braves could get a couple really good prospects for him.
 
Simmons, Pastor, Gattis, Terdo.... I have to question those experts who have been saying that our minors have been barren of positional prospects.
 
Carp said:
Simmons, Pastor, Gattis, Terdo.... I have to question those experts who have been saying that our minors have been barren of positional prospects.
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I think they mean not a ton of high-upside, blue chip offensive prospect since Heyward/Freeman. Where did Freeman peak on prospect lists? I forget. Terdo/Gattis were old prospects. Pastor and Simmons haven't been much with the stick. Lot of solid pieces (and Simmons could be special).
 
Terdo's defensive liabilities hamper his trade value but for us, him being a switch hitter and semi-capable of subbing at first, and us always looking for bench help, I see no reason considering his cost, that he doesnt hang around as a PH or 4th OFer.
 
I haven't seen anything from ST and his brief major league stint to make me believe he can't at the very least by a left fielder as well.
 
Carp said:
Simmons, Pastor, Gattis, Terdo.... I have to question those experts who have been saying that our minors have been barren of positional prospects.
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Maybe bc they don't consider utility guys (Pastor) and fringe bench players (Terdo) as having positional prospects?
 
We've produced one impact position player per year the past four years: Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Gattis. That's very good production from the farm system.

On this pitching side it is even more impressive: Teheran, Wood, Delgado, Minor, Beachy, Kimbrel, Venters, Avilan, Medlen.

BA came up with a ranking of overall production of major league players last year and I think we came out #1.

Looking at the All-Star Roster I see four Braves products (five if you want to count both McCann and Freeman). Kimbrel, Wainwright and Locke are the others. There are 80 All-Stars. 30 major league teams. So by that metric we are above average.

It is really impressive production when you consider we rarely have a high draft pick and are not big spenders on the international market.
 
nsacpi said:
We've produced one impact position player per year the past four years: Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Gattis. That's very good production from the farm system.

On this pitching side it is even more impressive: Teheran, Wood, Delgado, Minor, Beachy, Kimbrel, Venters, Avilan, Medlen.

BA came up with a ranking of overall production of major league players last year and I think we came out #1.

Looking at the All-Star Roster I see four Braves products (five if you want to count both McCann and Freeman). Kimbrel, Wainwright and Locke are the others. There are 80 All-Stars. 30 major league teams. So by that metric we are above average.

It is really impressive production when you consider we rarely have a high draft pick and are not big spenders on the international market.
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And yet people think that you are a homer if you give braves prospects the benefit of the doubt.
 
gilesfan said:
What would you call him? He's a good with a good stroke that doesn't have a position that he plays very well defensively.
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This isn't similar to you saying that Gattis couldn't catch at the major league level right?

Either way, Terdo could be a 1B/LF/RF. Obviously, thats going to be tough with teh Braves but I think he can be a starting player in the big leagues. Not an all star but a guy who could be a really good 4th OF/first bench player on a good team and a solid everyday player on a middling to almost playoff team. The guy looks good at the plate to me. You can hide average to below average defense.
 
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