Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

Oh did you want to argue with me? You know how that ends dont you, you running away with your tail between your legs. Pretty sure at no point in time did I say that Trump was guilty of collusion with Russia to interfere in the 2020 election. I think he solicited their help on live TV asking them to take an action that would help his campaign. I believe Paul Manafort might have colluded with Russia to help Trumps campaign. The internal polling data Manafort gave to the former KGB agent was most likely used by Russia to focus their propaganda campaign on the right places. I have already been thru the Russia thread and bumped peoples comments leading up to the release of the Mueller report. You and Sturg want to say that me and others were certain Trump would be arrested after the Mueller report dropped and Hillary Clinton installed President. We thought Mueller was investigating Trumps financial ties to Russians prior to the election. He wasnt. We got wrong. I still think theres a whole lot of shady **** that went down between Trump and Russia long before running for President and I would like to know a lot more about what happened with Trump and Deutche Bank. I do think Trump will be indicted for tax fraud in NY, fraud relating to his loan applications, and soliciting election fraud/racketering/similar charge in Georgia. You want to highstep about me getting something wrong. Highstep if those dont happen by 2024.

Keep the hope alive.

I’m glad you’ve turned into the guy that believes the FBI when they make blanket unsupportable assertions.
You’ve come full circle.
 
Important to note that the Russia hoax impacted both the 2016 and 2018 elections.

Would the Democrats have taken such large majorities if not for this hoax?

Doubtful
 
I can't believe the lecturer is not man enough to face the music.

Whiny

Little

Bitch

I dunno... running away like a scared little bitch is potentially more noble than his usual move of condescendingly doubling down on how wrong he is, and lecturing us on the next topic endlessly until he's inedibly proved a fool once again
 
Weird, huh. But don't worry... the same idiots will believe the same liars blindly on the next one, and will look down on all of those who take a second to be skeptical

Like clockwork

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This part has been remarkable. There's no inclination to own up to their own mistakes, fine. But to suddenly pretend it never happened just gives the game away.
 
This part has been remarkable. There's no inclination to own up to their own mistakes, fine. But to suddenly pretend it never happened just gives the game away.

Ok, heres whats being mischaracterized.

- The issue with Kevin Clinesmith who was charged by Durham investigation was because he altered an email from the CIA that said Carter Paige had previously been a source for them. His supervisors, the ones who are supposedly in a conspiracy against Trump, asked if Paige was a CIA source which led to the email exchange between Clinesmith and a CIA representative. The court found that he didnt act with political bias and was just trying to save himself some work. He got probation. Again, this was the 4th extenstion for the wiretap of Carter Paige who they believed was targeted by Russia agents. If Clinesmith did nothing wrong there would still have been the wiretap on Paige as well as atleast 3 extensions. This has nothing to do with the investigation being a fake or a fraud.


The issue with Sussman is he may have lied to the FBI regarding some minor story about a bank that I think had about 10 posts about it in the 500+ pages of the Russia investigation thread. I see the high stepping by people about this but the bank was a very minor story that did not start the crossfire hurricane investigation or start the public belief that Trump was compromised by Russia. Most people heard it reported. Never heard any follow up stories and forgot about it.


They keep calling the Steele Dossier fake. Some things in it have not been verified. Some have. Steele was pretty open about it being raw intelligence that needed further investigation. I personally dont give a **** about a pee tape nor do I think it would effect his support in any meaningful way. Crossfire Hurricane had been going for months before they even learned of the Steele Dossier which was used for FISA warrants. They can argue all they want about the dossier but it was used for wiretaps not as the justification for the investigation. If the wiretapes were rejected by the FISA court the investigation would not have suddenly ended or never existed to begin with.
 
Clinesmith literally altered an e-mail to give the exact opposite conclusion.

This was a man that texted 'Vive la resistance' after Trump won the election.



I love now how the verdict given in a court case is all Cajun needs to determine his assessment. I guess all those black people illegally thrown in jail by cops and courts are justified by him now.


You are a toadie. What a disgrace.
 
A minor story about Afla bank and that there was a SECRET SERVER that Trump was communicating with the Russian government.

Minor story...

Toadie away
 
The only things the Steele Dossier got right is publicly available information.

Thats the whole point. Throw in some inconsequential facts and mix it up with obvious lunacy so the intelligence community can say 'largely verified'.

What a ****ing idiot.
 
I believe what the Mueller report said about Russia hacking the DNC. I kept a pretty open mind though. If you remember correctly I was open to the whole Seth Rich thing.


Paul Manafort met with and gave highly valuable campaign data to Russian agent. I believe that. Manafort was convicted for lying about it to the FBI. Beyond that I believe Trump has financial ties to Russians that probably isnt legitimate. We shall see on that.


Please do go on though.
 
You can believe whatever Muellers Democrat team said (Mueller did not even know where he was half the time).

Or, you can believe the CEO of crowdstrike that did the actual investigation of the servers when he said, "There was no physical evidence of data exfiltration". So I then wonder - How could the DNC be hacked without any evidence of the hack? Anyone with half a brain knows it was Seth Rich that stole the data and then was killed as a result.

Of course you're going to believe the FBI you toadie.


LOL at Manafort. Guy was doing the same nonsense for decades. But NOW its a big deal.

Polling data is effectively publicly available.
 
A minor story about Afla bank and that there was a SECRET SERVER that Trump was communicating with the Russian government.

Minor story...

Toadie away



Minor enough that its hard to find any posts about it in the Russia thread. 500 pages and theres what? 10 posts about it.
 
Minor enough that its hard to find any posts about it in the Russia thread. 500 pages and theres what? 10 posts about it.

So minor the Democrat candidate for president tweeted about it to her millions of followers (While knowing it was a complete fraud) just days before election day.

Minor

Toadie
 
Clinesmith literally altered an e-mail to give the exact opposite conclusion.

This was a man that texted 'Vive la resistance' after Trump won the election.



I love now how the verdict given in a court case is all Cajun needs to determine his assessment. I guess all those black people illegally thrown in jail by cops and courts are justified by him now.


You are a toadie. What a disgrace.


I would give stock to this theory that Clinesmith was a Trump hater trying to take him down if there was any reasonable expectation in getting that 4th extension would have led to Trump going down. The guy did a bad. He shouldnt a done it. He should be punished. But I fail to see the big deal outside of violating Paige's civil rights. It changes literally noting about the investigation. Might the wiretape of Paige ended if he didnt alter the email? Probably. Does the whole investigation end? No. The only thing exposing this would really accomplish is getting any evidence gained from that 4th wiretap extension thrown out as inadmissible. There wasnt any incriminating evidence found in that 4th wiretap extension so I fail to see how it changes anything regarding the investigation.
 
So minor the Democrat candidate for president tweeted about it to her millions of followers (While knowing it was a complete fraud) just days before election day.

Minor

Toadie



Hold up. Are you telling me a candidate for President of the United States twatted something that wasnt true? Does the press know about this? Wait, hold on, I got Don Lemon on the phone. This is going to be the biggest of breaking news stories.......
 
I would give stock to this theory that Clinesmith was a Trump hater trying to take him down if there was any reasonable expectation in getting that 4th extension would have led to Trump going down. The guy did a bad. He shouldnt a done it. He should be punished. But I fail to see the big deal outside of violating Paige's civil rights. It changes literally noting about the investigation. Might the wiretape of Paige ended if he didnt alter the email? Probably. Does the whole investigation end? No. The only thing exposing this would really accomplish is getting any evidence gained from that 4th wiretap extension thrown out as inadmissible. There wasnt any incriminating evidence found in that 4th wiretap extension so I fail to see how it changes anything regarding the investigation.

My God - All of that railing about police and judges against black people was just bull****.

As long as the end result is what you agreed with.

Toadie
 
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