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I'm all for tearing down statues of people. You'd be hard pressed to find someone without a disqualifying event in their past. You can legitimately argue statues of Jefferson should be removed as it's celebrating a slave owner. The George Floyd statue in New Jersey should be removed as it's celebrating a criminal and drug addict. The William T. Sherman statue in DC should be removed because it celebrates a man who committed war crimes.

I say don't have statues glorifying flawed people. If you want to have statues celebrating what these people did then have something celebrating that and not the person. Have a statue celebrating the writing of the Declaration of Independence, have a statue memorializing the unifying effect Floyd's death had on the black community, have a statue celebrating the end of the Civil War. You can debate whether these events are deserving of a statue but I guarantee if you pick through the life of virtually anyone with a statue to them, you'll find deeds that should disqualify them from having a statue.

So tear statues of people down all you want.
 
striker42 said:
I'm all for tearing down statues of people. You'd be hard pressed to find someone without a disqualifying event in their past. You can legitimately argue statues of Jefferson should be removed as it's celebrating a slave owner. The George Floyd statue in New Jersey should be removed as it's celebrating a criminal and drug addict. The William T. Sherman statue in DC should be removed because it celebrates a man who committed war crimes.

I say don't have statues glorifying flawed people. If you want to have statues celebrating what these people did then have something celebrating that and not the person. Have a statue celebrating the writing of the Declaration of Independence, have a statue memorializing the unifying effect Floyd's death had on the black community, have a statue celebrating the end of the Civil War. You can debate whether these events are deserving of a statue but I guarantee if you pick through the life of virtually anyone with a statue to them, you'll find deeds that should disqualify them from having a statue.

So tear statues of people down all you want.
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People should be judged against their contemporaries.

Tearing down historical relics is a standard in communist revolutions.
 
Remember when Trump said the founders were next and a bunch of fact checkers and historians said he was wrong?

I remember making a bet with Julio about it too. He was sure the founders were safe. Who is crazy enough to tear down the founders who created the freest country the world has ever seen?

The insane left will never stop until everything commemorating freedom is gone. We are up against communists now and the sooner you idiots understand that the better chance we have
 
sturg33 said:
Remember when Trump said the founders were next and a bunch of fact checkers and historians said he was wrong?

I remember making a bet with Julio about it too. He was sure the founders were safe. Who is crazy enough to tear down the founders who created the freest country the world has ever seen?

The insane left will never stop until everything commemorating freedom is gone. We are up against communists now and the sooner you idiots understand that the better chance we have
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I can't believe its taken some of the 'moderates' here this long.

Its been obvious whats been going on for the last 10-15 years. We have a clear enemy at the gates and must be extremely forceful with expelling them from our great country.
 
thethe said:
I can't believe its taken some of the 'moderates' here this long.

Its been obvious whats been going on for the last 10-15 years. We have a clear enemy at the gates and must be extremely forceful with expelling them from our great country.
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Longer than 10-15 years. The KGB had a long term destabilization program in place during the Cold War with the goal of turning Hollywood and academia red. Reagan whipped the USSR, his successors are getting creamed by the CCP, and no one has even started fighting the domestic commie war yet.
 
Jaw said:
Longer than 10-15 years. The KGB had a long term destabilization program in place during the Cold War with the goal of turning Hollywood and academia red. Reagan whipped the USSR, his successors are getting creamed by the CCP, and no one has even started fighting the domestic commie war yet.
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We are seeing the fruits of the education system that was outlined in the early 2000s. These insane kids are now running things everywhere
 
Jaw said:
Longer than 10-15 years. The KGB had a long term destabilization program in place during the Cold War with the goal of turning Hollywood and academia red. Reagan whipped the USSR, his successors are getting creamed by the CCP, and no one has even started fighting the domestic commie war yet.
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This has been a global struggle since the French Revolution which doesn't get enough time in school to describe the sheer brutality.

Once the Bushies took over the Republican party we lost any push back against the communists and since that merging of the establishment parties its gone into hyperdrive. The internet and cable news changed the game to really push the propoganda.
 
I am hopeful though for the future. I think we are incredibly close to a golden age across the world.

Once we cripple the CCP and move supply chains then the world can do a true reset back to harmony.

It will be toxic to deal with the CCP moving forward as long as there are reasonable alternatives available on the open market.
 
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Imagine supporting a party that pushed a policy of 'Defunding the Police"

Jesus these leftists are so dumb.
 
goldfly said:
It’s most likely the circle you have put yourself in these days tap50
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Yeah, I mean everyone that got stuff wrong for the last 2 years isn't here anymore.

I can't control that one bit.

It isn't my fault everyone has too much pride to face the music.

Its really sad people have that much identity tied up in this place.

I think people don't like calling thethe crazy, then him showing them up. I'd hate for my confidence to be that shaky that I couldn't come back and tip my hat to someone.
 
It also doesn't help the few folks that do lean left here only post "LOL" and complete non-answers to questions they are asked repeatedly.

They also won't vilify their own.
 
Tapate50 said:
Yeah, I mean everyone that got stuff wrong for the last 2 years isn't here anymore.

I can't control that one bit.

It isn't my fault everyone has too much pride to face the music.

Its really sad people have that much identity tied up in this place.

I think people don't like calling thethe crazy, then him showing them up. I'd hate for my confidence to be that shaky that I couldn't come back and tip my hat to someone.
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Could only imagine how much of a fool the lecturer realizes he is based on the things I've told him he was wrong on.

The best was Julio actually said there was no bias on Muellers team.

I mean - How does it get worse than that?
 
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