Braves sign Ervin Santana to 1 year 14.1M deal

#Braves McGuirk: "We want to send a message to the guys in this clubhouse and our fans and sponsors, that we expect to win, we want to win."

Its clear that Liberty sees the Braves as a profitable business with untapped market potential. Great sign.
 
thethe said:
Why should we assume that at this point? Braves could end up spending more money.

Also, its very likely that Santana will net a first round pick for the Braves next year.
Click to expand...

EXACTLY. There's a chance that they'll get a better pick than 26 in the deal, and the way player development works, a guy drafted 26th this year still would likely need 2-3 years to reach the bigs. So if Santana is worth a first-rounder next year, then it's more of a deferral than lost of a pick. I hope to God the Braves didn't promise him not to give him a qualifying offer.

Have we gotten a link or confirmation on the Wren quote. I am considering the OP less than totally credible.
 
Actually I was the one that was punked on that one, I got it sent to me via text from a buddy, I was so damn excited I posted it here instantly, but after further review, I can't find the quote anywhere either so I believe it is fake. Can't get him to fess up or give me a link either
 
Sorry, I'm as peeved as all of you are, I'm not very happy at the moment with myself or my buddy. Can't believe I fell for it.

But there are some good vibes coming from McCuirk that are legit.

We are entering unchartered territory, and despite the circumstances and its too bad what happened to Medlen, one has to be excited about the last month or so locking in the young talent and spending the money for the future, all the while spending currently and trying to bolster the team.

I like the Santana move, think he is going to have a "HELL" of a year for the Braves, at least I hope so. Always have really liked his stuff when he was with the Angels, hopefully he puts it all together.
 
Wow. What a morning.

For anyone who doesn't like this move, consider the following.

Give or take a few on either side, MLB has about 30 pitchers who make it to 200 innings pitched every year. It's really hard to do in this era of baseball. Part of the reason our pitching did so well last year was because we had Mike Minor achieve that feat, and had 2 others (Medlen, Teheran) that came fairly close to it. Obviously Medlen can't do that now, and Minor is questionable. By getting Santana, we at least stand a halfway decent chance of getting at least 400ish quality innings out of the rotation, or maybe even more if Minor comes back strong. It's not outlandish to think that perhaps we might have 3 pitchers flirt with 200 innings again. For a contending team, you cannot expect to go to war with only one or two guys that have proven that they can go the whole season, and win. I really like what I've seen out of Wood, but he's apparently on a limit. And we may have another Beachy that comes out of nowhere. But you can't assume that will happen. At some point, you owe it to your team to solve a problem with a proven commodity, and Santana was the closest to that we were going to get at this point.

As for the WHIP argument, consider a basic example: Two pitchers pitch in seperate games. One gives up a home run, two singles, and gets out of the inning. Another gives up two singles, then a home run. Vastly different outcomes, yet WHIP views their performances to be the same value. It's a fun at a glance stat, but just that.

As for the fake quote:

I_want_to_believe5.jpg
 
Here are Wren's quotes in DOB's story:

“It just worked out that he had not reached an agreement yet,” Wren said, “and so once we had the injuries, we reached out to his agent…. We’re thrilled to have him, and we feel like he really gives us a big shot in the arm as far as the rotation’s concerned.

“In light of what’s happened over the past few days with our pitching staff, we thought it was incumbent on us to do everything we could to strengthen our starting pitching.”

“This is an incredible decision by the organization, because this is going to push us well above what we thought our budget would be this year,” Wren said. “But Mr. McGuirk and John jumped in to say this is important for our team, and made a big commitment.”

“Literally the afternoon that Kris Medlen got hurt, I reached out to Jay Alou by text,” Wren said. “And then we started talking (Tuesday) and trying to see if there was a match. When I reached out originally it was because I knew from media reports that he was down the road with some other clubs who had a big head start on us (in negotiations). So we tried to see if there was still a chance for us to get in the mix.

“I think once we started talking, we realized that Ervin was very interested in us as well, that he thought this was a good opportunity for him, and it was a perfect for us for. We’re fortunate that it all fit at the right time. Another day later, we might not have been able to make it happen.”

“We don’t have any finality on Brandon, or Kris — we don’t know what’s going to happen with either guy, and we’re still hoping for the best,” Wren said. “But just knowing where we were depth-wise, we felt it was really important (to sign Santana)…. Throughout the winter, we didn’t feel like we were going to be in this (starting pitcher) market, but we felt like Ervin was the No. 1 guy in the market. We always felt that he was the guy that, if we were going to go out there (and sign a frontline pitcher), he was the guy that we would love to have.”
 
rico43 said:
Here are Wren's quotes in DOB's story:

“It just worked out that he had not reached an agreement yet,” Wren said, “and so once we had the injuries, we reached out to his agent…. We’re thrilled to have him, and we feel like he really gives us a big shot in the arm as far as the rotation’s concerned.

“In light of what’s happened over the past few days with our pitching staff, we thought it was incumbent on us to do everything we could to strengthen our starting pitching.”

“This is an incredible decision by the organization, because this is going to push us well above what we thought our budget would be this year,” Wren said. “But Mr. McGuirk and John jumped in to say this is important for our team, and made a big commitment.”

“Literally the afternoon that Kris Medlen got hurt, I reached out to Jay Alou by text,” Wren said. “And then we started talking (Tuesday) and trying to see if there was a match. When I reached out originally it was because I knew from media reports that he was down the road with some other clubs who had a big head start on us (in negotiations). So we tried to see if there was still a chance for us to get in the mix.

“I think once we started talking, we realized that Ervin was very interested in us as well, that he thought this was a good opportunity for him, and it was a perfect for us for. We’re fortunate that it all fit at the right time. Another day later, we might not have been able to make it happen.”

“We don’t have any finality on Brandon, or Kris — we don’t know what’s going to happen with either guy, and we’re still hoping for the best,” Wren said. “But just knowing where we were depth-wise, we felt it was really important (to sign Santana)…. Throughout the winter, we didn’t feel like we were going to be in this (starting pitcher) market, but we felt like Ervin was the No. 1 guy in the market. We always felt that he was the guy that, if we were going to go out there (and sign a frontline pitcher), he was the guy that we would love to have.”
Click to expand...

I'm not falling for that one again
 
Millwood1Hitter said:
When asked about the potential move that he is currently working on, Wren stated, "I can't elaborate, but all I will say, is it is going to change the landscape of our division and all of baseball, and Braves fans are going to be exciting as we will field the best pitching staff in baseball that will rival the days of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz."

Wonder who he is alluding to?
Click to expand...

This can't be true! Wren always keeps stuff close to his chest. This is a fake quote I bet!
 
Again, we should just feel fortunate that a pitcher of this caliber (Santana) was available this late because if he wasn't other teams would have known we were desperate and would have looked to rape our system, or we would have had to stand pat, or worse yet go JS route 2003 and sign a piece of trash like Shane Reynolds which did not and would not improve the rotation at all.
 
Millwood1Hitter said:
Again, we should just feel fortunate that a pitcher of this caliber (Santana) was available this late because if he wasn't other teams would have known we were desperate and would have looked to rape our system, or we would have had to stand pat, or worse yet go JS route 2003 and sign a piece of trash like Shane Reynolds which did not and would not improve the rotation at all.
Click to expand...

Twice in a morning, you've vented about a pitcher who threw for the Braves in 2003!! Obsess much?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top