GDT 4-17 The Easter Bunny is Named Bryce Elder

I still like elder as a very good 5th starter. Did not think ump helped him.

4-6 innings of 2-3 run ball. When your fifth starter pitches you need to score 5 plus runs.

Feels very similar to the beginning of last year. Olson playing the role of acuna.
 
I mean, the problem areas for the offense are DH and a cOF spot, which was pretty apparent once Duvall and Rosario were the only additions made to the offense. I'm not sure why anyone was fooled by 1 month of unsustainable play from Rosario, but here we are...for 2 guaranteed years.

Acuna will obviously solve a spot when he gets back, and Harris will likely earn his chance to solve the other within the next couple months. After that AA will be on the hunt again for free OF upgrades.
 
Waters having an injury was really unfortunate for him. He probably had a legit shot at getting some action early this season
 
Enscheff said:
I mean, the problem areas for the offense are DH and a cOF spot, which was pretty apparent once Duvall and Rosario were the only additions made to the offense. I'm not sure why anyone was fooled by 1 month of unsustainable play from Rosario, but here we are...for 2 guaranteed years.

Acuna will obviously solve a spot when he gets back, and Harris will likely earn his chance to solve the other within the next couple months. After that AA will be on the hunt again for free OF upgrades.
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True, but Rosario's first two weeks are equally unsustainable in the other direction. Just playing to his career averages will be a hell of a boost. He's still more suited for a spot play role.
 
I have to think Conforto is in the plans somehow. When can he be signed without giving up a pick? July 19th? That makes him more of a trade deadline acquisition.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I still like elder as a very good 5th starter. Did not think ump helped him.

4-6 innings of 2-3 run ball. When your fifth starter pitches you need to score 5 plus runs.

Feels very similar to the beginning of last year. Olson playing the role of acuna.
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Yeah - Starting pitching is not going to be this teams problem.

But once Acuna comes back I don't think we are going to have many problems at all.
 
Enscheff said:
I have to think Conforto is in the plans somehow. When can he be signed without giving up a pick? July 19th? That makes him more of a trade deadline acquisition.
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MLB Draft is July 11-13th so supposedly anytime after that. The 2019 draft was June 3-5th and the Braves signed Kuechel on the 6th.
 
With Newk in the midst of his 5 WAR seasons, and Elder being a very good #5, the Braves rotation is in excellent shape!

The actual facts are that Elder has an xwOBA of .409, which isn't good enough to be an MLB pitcher for long. His 4.50 ERA is only that low due to some very good sequencing and BABIP luck. His 6.3 K/9 and 4.5 BB/9 are not MLB quality either.

Elder is a stopgap solution, and nothing more unless his control improves greatly.
 
Enscheff said:
With Newk in the midst of his 5 WAR seasons, and Elder being a very good #5, the Braves rotation is in excellent shape!

The actual facts are that Elder has an xwOBA of .409, which isn't good enough to be an MLB pitcher for long. His 4.50 ERA is only that low due to some very good sequencing and BABIP luck. His 6.3 K/9 and 4.5 BB/9 are not MLB quality either.

Elder is a stopgap solution, and nothing more unless his control improves greatly.
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I guess we could always trade Fried as a piece for Odorizzi.

That would solve things right away!
 
msstate7 said:
Waters having an injury was really unfortunate for him. He probably had a legit shot at getting some action early this season
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I guess it was unfortunate? Absolutely nothing Waters has done in his professional career says he's even a AAAA player yet.
 
thethe said:
Yeah - Starting pitching is not going to be this teams problem.

But once Acuna comes back I don't think we are going to have many problems at all.
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A rotation with Elder and Ynoa at this point is a problem whether you choose to admit it or not.
 
zbhargrove said:
A rotation with Elder and Ynoa at this point is a problem whether you choose to admit it or not.
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I wonder how long they will stick with the 6 man rotation? Elder and Ynoa back to back seems bad. But taking one of them out of the rotation makes it look better on paper. Fried, Morton, Anderson, Wright (new and improved), Ynoa/Elder isn't horrible.
 
zbhargrove said:
A rotation with Elder and Ynoa at this point is a problem whether you choose to admit it or not.
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I see the rotation as having one of those guys and a host of others to figure out a way and piece together league average production out of the fifth spot.

Kyle Wright will be the mainstay.
 
msstate7 said:
You realize we aren't gonna use a 6-man rotation all year, right?

Fried
Morton
Anderson
Wright
Ynoa/elder/muller/Davidson
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Not sure why anyone would think that's actually the case. Fried made 28 starts and Anderson made 24 in 2021. They may not officially call it a 6-Man Rotation, but there are plenty of reasons to make it operate like one by juggling things on off days - especially when everyone pitched much later than most Pitchers last fall.

If Elder/Ynoa/Muller/Davidson aren't getting great results you can still use one of them and/or Strider/Newk/Touki as Openers and simply don't skip the 5th SP slot anytime this year to keep Morton/Fried/Anderson/Wright going every fifth day. Will wind up being much better in the long run. Have the first four as an every fifth GAME SP rather than 5th day SP.
 
msstate7 said:
You realize we aren't gonna use a 6-man rotation all year, right?

Fried
Morton
Anderson
Wright
Ynoa/elder/muller/Davidson
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I think we have next to zero off days during April. It’s probably another week or so. That said, elder has kept us in every single game so far. Not sure why he’s included here
 
Enscheff said:
With Newk in the midst of his 5 WAR seasons, and Elder being a very good #5, the Braves rotation is in excellent shape!

The actual facts are that Elder has an xwOBA of .409, which isn't good enough to be an MLB pitcher for long. His 4.50 ERA is only that low due to some very good sequencing and BABIP luck. His 6.3 K/9 and 4.5 BB/9 are not MLB quality either.

Elder is a stopgap solution, and nothing more unless his control improves greatly.
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Did you ever do a pitch analysis of Elder? He hasn't been great so far, but he's also made two career starts. His K/BB is about half of what it was in the minors. I imagine he'll start to adjust and will improve. I'm more worried about the metrics on his pitches at the moment than I am about his walk rate through two MLB starts. I'm still pretty high on him.
 
So how many hits is FF gonna have this series? Ex-braves seem to torch the braves, and this is no normal ex-brave... I expect him to rake

Hopefully dansby seeing his boy will get dansby playing well
 
The Rosario slander seems a little aggressive to me. No denying he's been absolutely horrific so far, but I'm not sure anyone expects him to be NLCS Eddie Rosario ever again. If he's just the .790-830 OPS guy he's been his whole career prior to 2021 he'll be fine. I don't buy that he's suddenly a .600 OPS guy, much less a sub .200 OPS guy as he's been so far.
 
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