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That really has nothing to do with carp's point of pop

Maybe not, but it certainly has everything to do with whether Waters will be anything more than AAAA fodder. The point is Dansby could get away with such power because he didn't strike out a third of the time.
 
I get that Malloy is older... but 22 in A+ his second year in pro ball is not terrible. The exciting thing about Malloy is his 13.5% walk rate (his draft scouting report really talked up his eye) and manageable k-rate. I look at his stats and I see plenty of room for growth and he was one of the guys I was highest on in the draft last year.

Still have a problem with Malloy's position inflexibility already at age 22 - they're playing Beau Phillip (and his .221/.324/.629 line and 3 HRs) at 3B rather than trying to get Malloy defensive reps over there at this point.

If he's going to be strictly a 1B/DH guy moving forward, he's REALLY going to have to hit.
 
Still have a problem with Malloy's position inflexibility already at age 22 - they're playing Beau Phillip (and his .221/.324/.629 line and 3 HRs) at 3B rather than trying to get Malloy defensive reps over there at this point.

If he's going to be strictly a 1B/DH guy moving forward, he's REALLY going to have to hit.

I believe you mean Biggest Anthopoulos-Era Draft Mistake Beau Phillip, Long May He Reign.
 
Meanwhile, speaking of MIFs drafted in 2019, I'd like to see a promotion for Cody Milligan soon.

He's always sported good-to-great walk-rates, but he's over 18% now, with a strikeout-rate under 20%. Yes, his .419 BABIP is why he's hitting .320 all the sudden, but the .450 OBP is no joke; and with a .405 woba in 200+ PA, it seems time for a bigger challenge, especially given he's 23 in A+, and the lack of a 2020 season (as a 2019 draftee) probably held him back a decent amount in 2021.

He's probably not a serious starter-level prospect, but as a lefty-hitting MIF with one elite skill (plate discipline / OBP), it'd be nice to have an inkling whether he's worth protecting from the Rule 5 this winter. Finishing the season out in AA would help with that, and Mississippi doesn't have any other 2Bs I'd rather see getting PAs over Milligan.
 
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I believe you mean Biggest Anthopoulos-Era Draft Mistake Beau Phillip, Long May He Reign.

Mmm.

Did they sign him well under slot or no? I forget.

The draft day theory was he was how they were moving money down but don't recall if that's how it panned out.

Never made much sense as a talent play.
 
Mmm.

Did they sign him well under slot or no? I forget.

The draft day theory was he was how they were moving money down but don't recall if that's how it panned out.

Never made much sense as a talent play.

I don't think he was a big cost savings.

As I recall he was a reach per the industry at the draft and has been total crap since day 1. I think he was one of those computer scouting darlings. I'm a data driven guy but I do think our model is pushing us too much toward college guys, especially college pitchers with an unexpected velocity spike and position guys w/ low upside.
 
I don't think he was a big cost savings.

As I recall he was a reach per the industry at the draft and has been total crap since day 1. I think he was one of those computer scouting darlings. I'm a data driven guy but I do think our model is pushing us too much toward college guys, especially college pitchers with an unexpected velocity spike and position guys w/ low upside.

He was a cost-savings, but not as big of one as we'd expected, given how big of a reach he looked to be:

Philip, a junior shortstop and the 60th pick of the draft earlier this month, signed a deal with Atlanta with a signing bonus of $700,000, according to MLB.com. The signing bonus was well under the No. 60 slot value of $1,157,400.

The Braves saved $450k by picking him, which is part of what they moved down into the later rounds to sign guys like Tyler Owens, Joey Estes, Makhi Backstrom, Kadon Morton, et al—though about $300k went to signing Stephen Paolini at twice his slot (oops).

Fun fact: both Shea Langeliers and Michael Harris II signed underslot deals as part of this four-dimensional chessgame of a draft—the Braves saved a full $900k on the former and ~$40k on the latter—and also look to be the only two impact players drafted. Indeed, Stephen Paolini ended up earning about $100k more in signing bonus than Michael Harris II, thanks to Paolini's substantial overslot.
 
He was a cost-savings, but not as big of one as we'd expected, given how big of a reach he looked to be:



The Braves saved $450k by picking him, which is part of what they moved down into the later rounds to sign guys like Tyler Owens, Joey Estes, Makhi Backstrom, Kadon Morton, et al—though about $300k went to signing Stephen Paolini at twice his slot (oops).

Fun fact: both Shea Langeliers and Michael Harris II signed underslot deals as part of this four-dimensional chessgame of a draft—the Braves saved a full $900k on the former and ~$40k on the latter—and also look to be the only two impact players drafted. Indeed, Stephen Paolini ended up earning about $100k more in signing bonus than Michael Harris II, thanks to Paolini's substantial overslot.

450k is a nice savings.

Particularly if your model also liked him. But it was an odd pick.


I don't mind leaning college.

I think the drafts have had a lot of weirdness to them...covid, forfeited draft picks...the guy that didn't sign.
 
The stigma around college players being low ceiling has been lifted somewhat. They have more data that can tell a more predictive story. I don’t think FOs necessarily think that’s a bad thing these days
 
The stigma around college players being low ceiling has been lifted somewhat. They have more data that can tell a more predictive story. I don’t think FOs necessarily think that’s a bad thing these days

Valid. And the current rules mean if you get a college guy you likely control him through his twenties.

I just would prefer tooled up College or HS guy over does ok in a lot of boxes for our computer model guy.
 
Braves LHP prospect Kyle Muller struck out 11 over seven innings for Triple-A Gwinnett on Tuesday.
Muller, 24, allowed two runs -- one of them earned -- and didn’t issue a walk. The strong effort lowers his ERA with the Stripers to 2.89, and in 62 1/3 frames, he has an outstanding 84/21 K/BB ratio over 11 starts. Muller struggled to throw strikes in his outing earlier in the year, but the stuff is legit, and he’s mostly found the zone in his minor league outings this year. Muller can pitch, and deserves consideration when the Braves decide to promote him again.
 
Braves LHP prospect Kyle Muller struck out 11 over seven innings for Triple-A Gwinnett on Tuesday.
Muller, 24, allowed two runs -- one of them earned -- and didn’t issue a walk. The strong effort lowers his ERA with the Stripers to 2.89, and in 62 1/3 frames, he has an outstanding 84/21 K/BB ratio over 11 starts. Muller struggled to throw strikes in his outing earlier in the year, but the stuff is legit, and he’s mostly found the zone in his minor league outings this year. Muller can pitch, and deserves consideration when the Braves decide to promote him again.

Still think we should keep him AAA like Wright. I could see him having a role late in the year and/or in the playoffs in the Strider role. Or more of a pen role if Tyler isn't back to himself.

Really bleak on the farm now. Someone needs to hit.
 
Still think we should keep him AAA like Wright. I could see him having a role late in the year and/or in the playoffs in the Strider role. Or more of a pen role if Tyler isn't back to himself.

Really bleak on the farm now. Someone needs to hit.

To be fair we just graduated Harris/Strider who seem like legit major leaguers. Only so many prospects a team can hit on in a 2-3 year span.

AA and his crew need to get to work the next 3-5 years to restock the system.
 
Ynoa, muller, elder, and Davidson may not seem that valuable, but I think it's guys like this that have helped the braves in this division winning streak
 
Haven't seen Elder enough to really comment on him but its strange to me how Ynoa is an afterthought to most fans. He wasn't just ok last year. He was a good middle of the rotation starter.
 
Haven't seen Elder enough to really comment on him but its strange to me how Ynoa is an afterthought to most fans. He wasn't just ok last year. He was a good middle of the rotation starter.

But now he isn't. Until he can show that over a period of time, then he is an after thought to me. The stuff was real however.. he just needs to show it again with the command needed to be successful.

Other than that, I agree with you in a pervious comment.. People need to relax on our system being weak at the top. We have graduated a crap ton of talent within the last 5 years that are allowing us this period of success. We need to restock the lower minors right now.
 
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