Look at that velocity drop (2MPH) going into his third year. Writing was on the wall despite decent production.
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Look at that velocity drop (2MPH) going into his third year. Writing was on the wall despite decent production.
Yeah...a sign he had shoulder issues that kept getting worse.
Russ2dollas
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Pipeline updated. Harris our only guy at 14.
I think Grissom should be there, but maybe next year.
Pipeline updated. Harris our only guy at 14.
I think Grissom should be there, but maybe next year.
OcalaBrave
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The generational talent being the guy that was injured while we won the World Series?
He was pretty important to the 30 something games we won before he got injured. Safe to say we would have been questionable to even make the playoffs without him.
Southcack77
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A lot of the "flameouts" became major leaguers which is a very good outcome.
The Braves have been incredibly lucky with the outcomes on position players and honestly the pitching has worked out pretty well also.
Southcack77
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Yeah it's a list that spans like 10+ Years and includes players not expected to do much.
Not sure if serious…
Southcack77
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That's certainly the entrenched view of some folks.
Pitching is expensive and volatile and is a bigger part of the roster and harder to project. It's always in demand.
And smart teams don't trade premium position prospects very often.
Either way, the pilloried Braves approach was hugely successful.
chop2chip
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Trading major leaguers for pitchers who became (non contributing) major leaguers isn’t a good outcome.
Southcack77
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Yeah actually trading expiring contracts, it probably is as it turns out.
chop2chip
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Simmons was an expiring contract?
OcalaBrave
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I was serious.
Ronald is great, but he didn't win us a World Series. 4 outfielders we picked up for largely AAA players, a reliever previously out of baseball with the yips and a 3rd baseman many on here wrote off were all far more important to the World Series run than Acuna.
When your roster looks like Atlanta's the farm needs to produce enough to fill holes with rookies or trades. The farm gave this current team Olson and two rookies playing lights out in Atlanta right now. Thus, it is difficult for me to understand anyone wanting to nit pick a rebuild that clearly worked exceedingly well and attribute it to luck.. Instead, I'd rather enjoy the view from atop the mountain and give AA a pat on the back, but I guess to each their own.
Acuña was the best player in baseball pre-injury last season.
we needed 3-4 outfielders to replace his production.
Then you are a moron and there is no further discussion to be had.
And I wasn’t nitpicking anything. Simply giving a take on rebuilding philosophy. It’s not an exact science.
Not on the active roster during the World Series = not a generational player. This is soundproof logic that can’t be debated.
OcalaBrave
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You are better than name calling 31. You know it and I know it.
Matt pointed out the Braves won a WS and have a nice window so he's "not unhappy with how we did anything." Your response was "it was only because we were lucky to hit on positional players and procured a generational talent." I pointed out the presumed generational talent had nothing to do with the WS.
I never said Acuna wasn't a generational talent. I never said we wouldn't have won the WS if he remained healthy. I never said we didn't get lucky on hit rate with positional players (though I think given the quality of prospect of Acuna, Albies and Swanson, Riley was the only bit of luck).
OcalaBrave
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Yes. That is almost verbatim what I wrote above. But in your scenario, does the generational talent Trout have anything to do with the Angels winning that WS?