57Brave
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" Third, our study is based on data from the only states where we could obtain voter registration information (Florida and Ohio); hence, our results may not generalize to other states.”
2022 Elections
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" Third, our study is based on data from the only states where we could obtain voter registration information (Florida and Ohio); hence, our results may not generalize to other states.”
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57Brave
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then again, they probably didn't take into consideration overweight black people
or ballot harvesting or --- or ---or
the writers were very clear the limitations of their study, had you bothered to read to the end.
My guess is if you were a fly on the wall of GOP headquarters you would be hearing the same
sturg33
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bumping on the new page... since it is so plausible that the GOP murdered their voters by not getting the vaccine... I really need 57 to help make sense of this
57Brave
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the writers addressed your question
sturg33
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yeah... the writes came up with a ridiculous hypothesis that any common sense would have rightfully mocked them,
instead - 57brave thought it was so compelling he posted to this board... when 57brave was rightfully mocked... he then doubled down with:
When mocked further... 57brave asked for data!
when given the data, 57brave says "the writers were clear about the limitations of their study"
it's honestly so pathetic how dumb you are, man
57Brave
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I would say it was party switch in opposition to child mutilation
again, this data was not national but exclusive to Ohio and Florida.
where party affiliation is public info
have to admit that your electoral argument against child mutilation might have been stronger than anyone thought
sturg33
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uhhhhhh
DeWine increased his voted from 2.2M to 2.5M
A republican beat the incumbent democratic senator
what the **** is the argument here?
you can admit it was a stupid premise and we can move on
57Brave
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it isnt an argument
It was a report
I , after listening to election results from all sides , for the past week, see validity to the report
are you again missing the elephant in the room-
or dismissing it as an overweight black person ?
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the DeWine victory where an incumbent governor surpassed his previous vote total ?
that is a political rarity
and again it could have been that winning issue of child mutilation
It was a report
I , after listening to election results from all sides , for the past week, see validity to the report
are you again missing the elephant in the room-
or dismissing it as an overweight black person ?
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the DeWine victory where an incumbent governor surpassed his previous vote total ?
that is a political rarity
and again it could have been that winning issue of child mutilation
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sturg33
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I genuinely cannot fathom that you are this stupid
The argument is that the GOP killed their base with anti-vax. They use data from two states where the vote totals substantially increased for... GOP
Again, I cannot fathom how you are this stupid. But the democratic party is so very lucky to have you
This is the rationale of course but its completely unfounded. Just like screams of voter suppression in GA and then when they interview black people from the area they laugh at the idea they can't vote in person or get an ID.
57Brave
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https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/...san-lines-after-covid-19-vaccines-introduced/
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
and again let's understand the meaning of " working paper"
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
and again let's understand the meaning of " working paper"
57Brave
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this page 3 of the report
In the second panel of Figure 1, we plot excess death rates for Republicans and Democrats
separately. In 2018 and the early parts of 2020, excess death rates for Republicans and
Democrats are similar, and centered around zero. Both groups experienced a similar large
spike in excess deaths in the winter of 2020-2021. However, in the summer of 2021 — after
vaccines were widely available — the Republican excess death rate rose to nearly double that
of Democrats, and this gap widened further in the winter of 2021.
In the third panel of Figure 1, we estimate the difference between Republican and Demo
page 6
Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
trajectory of the pandemic in the United States. If these differences in vaccination by political party affiliation persist, then the higher excess death rate among Republicans is likely to
continue through the subsequent stages of the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
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57Brave
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note the date:
https://rollcall.com/2022/03/30/republicans-pandemic-deaths-pollsters/
Doctors and demographers recently noticed another tragic example of how polarization shapes America: The pandemic has killed more people in the nation’s Republican enclaves than its Democratic strongholds. They explain the gap by pointing to Republican resistance to vaccines and the GOP’s more cavalier approach to combating the virus in general.
Those findings suggest many more Republicans — tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands — have died of COVID-19 than Democrats, leading some to wonder with some morbidity what the political impact will be. Will Democrats, facing the normal midterm election headwinds plus high inflation, do surprisingly well in 2022 for the simple, sad fact that there are fewer Republicans?
https://rollcall.com/2022/03/30/republicans-pandemic-deaths-pollsters/
Doctors and demographers recently noticed another tragic example of how polarization shapes America: The pandemic has killed more people in the nation’s Republican enclaves than its Democratic strongholds. They explain the gap by pointing to Republican resistance to vaccines and the GOP’s more cavalier approach to combating the virus in general.
Those findings suggest many more Republicans — tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands — have died of COVID-19 than Democrats, leading some to wonder with some morbidity what the political impact will be. Will Democrats, facing the normal midterm election headwinds plus high inflation, do surprisingly well in 2022 for the simple, sad fact that there are fewer Republicans?
nsacpi
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this page 3 of the report
In the second panel of Figure 1, we plot excess death rates for Republicans and Democrats
separately. In 2018 and the early parts of 2020, excess death rates for Republicans and
Democrats are similar, and centered around zero. Both groups experienced a similar large
spike in excess deaths in the winter of 2020-2021. However, in the summer of 2021 — after
vaccines were widely available — the Republican excess death rate rose to nearly double that
of Democrats, and this gap widened further in the winter of 2021.
In the third panel of Figure 1, we estimate the difference between Republican and Demo
page 6
Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
trajectory of the pandemic in the United States. If these differences in vaccination by political party affiliation persist, then the higher excess death rate among Republicans is likely to
continue through the subsequent stages of the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
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Not a good political strategy to accelerate deaths among your most loyal voters. Our friendly resident disseminators of anti vax deza should check their hands. Might be some blood left under their fingernails.
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msstate7
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this page 3 of the report
In the second panel of Figure 1, we plot excess death rates for Republicans and Democrats
separately. In 2018 and the early parts of 2020, excess death rates for Republicans and
Democrats are similar, and centered around zero. Both groups experienced a similar large
spike in excess deaths in the winter of 2020-2021. However, in the summer of 2021 — after
vaccines were widely available — the Republican excess death rate rose to nearly double that
of Democrats, and this gap widened further in the winter of 2021.
In the third panel of Figure 1, we estimate the difference between Republican and Demo
page 6
Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the
well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and
trajectory of the pandemic in the United States. If these differences in vaccination by political party affiliation persist, then the higher excess death rate among Republicans is likely to
continue through the subsequent stages of the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w30512/w30512.pdf
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Without reading all that, how do they know who is registered Republican vs democrat. The majority of Covid deaths in my county were Indians and blacks, and neither really vote Republican even though my county is considered Republican.
ETA... this isn't entirely true. There were elderly whites, who do mostly vote Republican. The younger swathes were almost entirely black and Indian though. This is obviously antidotal, so it may not be the case even state wide
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Actually this is an old previously studied phenomenon that pre-dates covid. Apparently during a prior viral outbreak FOX amplified anti vax deza. And lo and behold FOX viewers got sick and died in larger numbers as a result. It is a thang.