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Trump doing worse than DeSantis nationally with TRUMPS NAME RECOGNITION?!?!!

Bad sign for the presumptive front runner

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Great - Bring it out. But we are talking about the primary and not the general.
 
I'm shocked though that social security program is running out of money.

Maybe it has to do with jobs being crushed from globalism.

Hmmmm.....
 
It's so baffling to me to see someone who claims is a math guy going to bat so hard for a ponzi scheme.

It is a literal ponzi scheme. And like all other ponzi schemes, it runs out of money.

But being alligned with Joe Biden is an interesting trait for my preferred candidate for presidency, I guess
 
We should be using our tax revenues to help Americans and not fund wars.

We should not be allowing illegal immigrants to undercut wages for AMericans and then they send their money back to Mexico or Latin America.

We should not be allowing 'American Business Owners' to ship jobs to slave labor markets.

All those things happen then the program is not out of money.

So yes Sturg - I am a math guy and quite a good one.

Lots of fluff here.

Please explain what specific policies Donald trump plans to do to make this ponzi scheme sustainable and better?
 
Great - Bring it out. But we are talking about the primary and not the general.

I'm under no illusion that DeSantis is the front runner in the primary.

The trump cult is strong and will be tough to unseat. But when the two of them speak about policies and results, there is a clear heavily hitter and there is a clear wannabee
 
Lots of fluff here.

Please explain what specific policies Donald trump plans to do to make this ponzi scheme sustainable and better?

When you add more jobs you get more payments do you not?

And yes - I think additional surplus from our great nations inflows should be allocated to pay AMeicans.
 
I'm under no illusion that DeSantis is the front runner in the primary.

The trump cult is strong and will be tough to unseat. But when the two of them speak about policies and results, there is a clear heavily hitter and there is a clear wannabee

The guy that needed to study 'How to be like Trump'?

I agree!!!
 
What happens to social security when you send out jobs overseas?

Of course its going to crash. This is basic math sturg.
 
The funniest thing about the SS debate is... It's not like we are talking about a good policy that is just not sustainable. I'd at least understand the hesitation from moving away from that.

But we are talking about a BAD policy that is ALSO unsustainable.

And it's not trivial, it just happens to be our largest budget expenditure and just happens to be our largest unfunded liability.

Any politician not thinking about improving this should not get an ounce of electoral support
 
What happens to social security when you send out jobs overseas?

Of course its going to crash. This is basic math sturg.

Last I saw unemployment is at record lows.

The math is the amount of benefit takers vs the benefit givers.

As a math guy, you should see this clearly.

At present, your math skills on this topic leave a lot to be desired.

Sad!
 
So what are the policies you're proposing?

Deport illegals - Punish businesses for hiring illegals - Put a wall up.

Incentivize putting factories in the US to bring the COGS back into our country.

BOOM - Social security funded.
 
Last I saw unemployment is at record lows.

The math is the amount of benefit takers vs the benefit givers.

As a math guy, you should see this clearly.

At present, your math skills on this topic leave a lot to be desired.

Sad!

Lets just ignore labor force participation. SAD!
 
Deport illegals - Punish businesses for hiring illegals - Put a wall up.

Incentivize putting factories in the US to bring the COGS back into our country.

BOOM - Social security funded.

I disagree that these policies, if they were executed on, would fund the ponzi scheme
 
Last I saw unemployment is at record lows.

The math is the amount of benefit takers vs the benefit givers.

As a math guy, you should see this clearly.

At present, your math skills on this topic leave a lot to be desired.

Sad!

Funny though that you criticized the unemployment rate when you want to hammer the Biden regime but then flip when it works against you.

Come on Sturg. I aint a rookie
 
The funniest thing about the SS debate is... It's not like we are talking about a good policy that is just not sustainable. I'd at least understand the hesitation from moving away from that.

But we are talking about a BAD policy that is ALSO unsustainable.

And it's not trivial, it just happens to be our largest budget expenditure and just happens to be our largest unfunded liability.

Any politician not thinking about improving this should not get an ounce of electoral support

Bumping this for good measure. Bc any politician who isn't thinking about improving this horrible, failed, and unsustainable policy should not get any support
 
Bumping this for good measure. Bc any politician who isn't thinking about improving this horrible, failed, and unsustainable policy should not get any support

No - you don't think they deserve support unless they solve it the way you want.

Bringing jobs back here solves a MASSIVE part of the problem.

The unfunded liability grew BECAUSE OF JOBS BEING SENT OVERSEAS.
 
Funny though that you criticized the unemployment rate when you want to hammer the Biden regime but then flip when it works against you.

Come on Sturg. I aint a rookie

I put the unemployment rate as a tongue in cheek response

I believe I recently saw if labor participation was 100%, we would not be able to find the liabilities in SS.

I'll try to dig that up.

But 100% labor participation is bad for society. I want women working less and raising families. But the economics we have forced ourselves in don't allow that to happen
 
No - you don't think they deserve support unless they solve it the way you want.

Bringing jobs back here solves a MASSIVE part of the problem.

The unfunded liability grew BECAUSE OF JOBS BEING SENT OVERSEAS.
Even if you solved the funding problem (you can't), it's a bad policy

It robs Americans of their wealth.

And it is a ponzi scheme
 
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