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I'm pursuadable to the idea that Crimea wanted to be a part of Russia and voluntarily gave up their autonomy to Putin.
Can you show me the evidence of that? If so, I'm with you that that was a good outcome
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I'm pursuadable to the idea that Crimea wanted to be a part of Russia and voluntarily gave up their autonomy to Putin.
Can you show me the evidence of that? If so, I'm with you that that was a good outcome
Did you see an insurrection for people fighting for their homeland?
THEY LOVED THAT THEY WERE ANNEXED.
Where the hell have you been?
The strongest army in the world were pushed out of jungles of vietnam and the sands of Afghanistan but Russia's army is impossible to mount an offensive against.
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Great.
Thethe was pro Putin taking over Crimea.
And how about Ukraine?
I say it's wrong they launched an offensive attack. You call me anti war cuck. Can you go ahead and confirm for.us that you are supportive of the offensive?
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I'm persuadable. Please send me the voluntary agreement from Crimea government and I'll give.it a look
Anything that results in this loss of life is wrong. But there is shared blame for this and making a blanket statement that "Putin was wrong for invading Ukraine" is childish.
The strongest army in the world were pushed out of jungles of vietnam and the sands of Afghanistan but Russia's army is impossible to mount an offensive against.
If there was any resistance Russia wouldn't ahve taken it without any struggle at all and you know that but you are playing stupid because you know you now support a war monger.
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So do you agree with RDS and Sturg33 then?
You keep going back and forth. Tough to get a straight answer.
No ody is saying it's not complex or complicated. I'm saying that a bloody offensive invasion is wrong
For that you call me pro war cuck?
But of course you could look to recent history to see that the crimean people were effectively a Russian satellite based on voting history.
But why look at actual data when you just want to distract from the fact that you know you sold out. And you sold out because of TDS which is hysterical.
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So was it a voluntary surrender of land? Can you send me the evidence of that?
As I said, I'm extremely persuadable to your position
I don't agree that Russia was wrong to annex Crimea so we disagree.
I agree with a portion of Russia was wrong to launch an offensive war in Greater Ukraine but I would have started the statement with "As a result of the US reckless foreign policy pushed by the Globalists we are in a position where Putin is invading Ukraine and that what he is doing is wrong"
Oh so your bar is something that would never exist in any type of scenario and this is your debating technique?
Sold out.
You aren't too stupid to see that if you hold a position like Putin was wrong to Annex Crimea and that he is a war criminal that we are headed for WW3 right?
LGBTQal;sdjfal;k issues are irrelevant then.
Government back currency is irrelevant then.
We are looking at trying to ****ing survive a global nuclear fall out.
LGBTQal;sdjfal;k issues are irrelevant then.
Government back currency is irrelevant then.
We are looking at trying to ****ing survive a global nuclear fall out.
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I really don't care about Russia/Crimea
And I really don't care a out Russia/Ukraine
It's not our business and if we stayed out of it it would be a lot better
But if you ask me point blank (I offered a nuance answer and that wasn't good enough for you) if I believe a nuclear power launching an offensive and aggressive war is right or wrong, I'm going to say it's wrong
So you think that a region that voted 80% in 4 years prior for a 'pro-putin' candidate is not happy Russia annexed them after there was a coup launched by a Western Power and ethnic russians in the east were being bombed?
I never thought you would have this type of juvenile thoughts.
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No.
What I said was
If the Crimea government wanted to voluntarily surrender their land to Putin, then I do not blame Putin for taking it.
Can you provide any evidence that that is what happened?
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If Palestine decided they will bomb and invade Israel, because they genuinely believe it is their right to that land, would we say that is justified or that is wrong?
If china invaded Tawain, because they believe that land is rightfully their, would we say that is justified or is wrong?
If china invaded Tawain, because they believe that land is rightfully their, would we say that is justified or is wrong?
The government? People of the region are the government. Especially when its 80+% that you can realistically assume supported the move by Putin.
But here Sturg - Let me here the MIC Globalist words come out of you in response to this article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26606097
Palestine does that every day through its proxys - Fool.
China will invade Tawain but the people there are truly democratic as opposed to what exists in Ukraine.
You ****ing sold out.
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I'm really struggling following you man.
Becoming an emotional basket case right in front of us.
China invading Tawain would be wrong, in my opinion. Do you disagree? Sounds like we are alligned.
Palestine aggressively attacking Israel is wrong. Sounds like we are alligned.
Putin invading Ukraine is wrong.. sounds like we agree.
Putin taking Crimea was wrong. We don't agree here
You act like I just killed your puppy and yet we are mostly alligned?