Trade deadline thread

It should have been clear that the Braves weren't going to make big splashy moves this deadline. I really like the Pierce move and the Lopez move. Both were needed additions. But the Braves have a ton of talent coming back and regardless if the team should rely on them or not is irrelevant...it was still coming back. And when it does, tough decisions are going to be made. Tomorrow, Fried will be activated and Heller was sent down ahead of that. I think he was the only guy left with options.. Then you have Chavez/Lee/Wright possibly a month or so away. That is 3 more spots you have to figure out on the active roster. Cheerios or Mchugh are the next to go.. After that, I wouldn't want to be in AA shoes.. Yates.. Tonkin...Cheerios/Mchugh again, I think JJ has secured his spot barring regression.

wait Lee might have options.. but he isn't going to be optioned.. just like N. Anderson when/if he returns. He has options left, but should be on the big club as well.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
It should have been clear that the Braves weren't going to make big splashy moves this deadline. I really like the Pierce move and the Lopez move. Both were needed additions. But the Braves have a ton of talent coming back and regardless if the team should rely on them or not is irrelevant...it was still coming back. And when it does, tough decisions are going to be made. Tomorrow, Fried will be activated and Heller was sent down ahead of that. I think he was the only guy left with options.. Then you have Chavez/Lee/Wright possibly a month or so away. That is 3 more spots you have to figure out on the active roster. Cheerios or Mchugh are the next to go.. After that, I wouldn't want to be in AA shoes.. Yates.. Tonkin...Cheerios/Mchugh again, I think JJ has secured his spot barring regression.

wait Lee might have options.. but he isn't going to be optioned.. just like N. Anderson when/if he returns. He has options left, but should be on the big club as well.
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Better to be in the position of too many good pitchers than in the position of not enough.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
It should have been clear that the Braves weren't going to make big splashy moves this deadline. I really like the Pierce move and the Lopez move. Both were needed additions. But the Braves have a ton of talent coming back and regardless if the team should rely on them or not is irrelevant...it was still coming back. And when it does, tough decisions are going to be made. Tomorrow, Fried will be activated and Heller was sent down ahead of that. I think he was the only guy left with options.. Then you have Chavez/Lee/Wright possibly a month or so away. That is 3 more spots you have to figure out on the active roster. Cheerios or Mchugh are the next to go.. After that, I wouldn't want to be in AA shoes.. Yates.. Tonkin...Cheerios/Mchugh again, I think JJ has secured his spot barring regression.

wait Lee might have options.. but he isn't going to be optioned.. just like N. Anderson when/if he returns. He has options left, but should be on the big club as well.
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Call me a pessimist, but I'm sure we'll lose someone to an injury before we gain all those guys back.
 
zitothebrave said:
Call me a pessimist, but I'm sure we'll lose someone to an injury before we gain all those guys back.
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that and some might not ever make it back. Lee/Wright/Anderson are shoulder and those don't always heal that well.. Chavez is missing a leg, so who knows on him.

Like striker said, rich people problems. So, I am pretty stoked at where the team is at.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
that and some might not ever make it back. Lee/Wright/Anderson are shoulder and those don't always heal that well.. Chavez is missing a leg, so who knows on him.

Like striker said, rich people problems. So, I am pretty stoked at where the team is at.
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I don't expect to see Anderson again this year. The comments I read from AA about pitchers they're confident are returning didn't include him. The absence was telling.
 
zitothebrave said:
Call me a pessimist, but I'm sure we'll lose someone to an injury before we gain all those guys back.
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Which is the reason another SP made sense. Sorry Matt, but although the deals weren’t made, AA said he was engaged up until the last minute. Tells me it wasn’t so clear cut that another SP wasn’t needed even if he’s happy with who’s coming back.
 
FG just did a check of who added the most playoff and championship probability at the deadline:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/who-changed-their-2023-fate-the-most-at-the-deadline/

The Braves already had a 100% playoff probability, so clearly they couldn't have improved upon it. This likely made deadline acquisitions less valuable for the Braves than they were for other clubs not guaranteed to be playing in October. The good news is the Braves did nothing at the deadline to decrease it.

Teams like the Rangers and Cubs and Astros added several percentage points to their playoff odds, so it makes sense why they did what they did.

The issue with the Braves standing pat is the decrease of WS Win% by -1.4%, the most of any team. Part of that comes from the fact that they were the clear WS favorites at 25.2% (a crazy high number, by the way), but the other reason is the fact they didn't add anything and risk sending a low-end SP to the mound during the playoffs.
 
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I firmly believe that our playoff run hinges mostly on the elbow of Fried. Strider/Fried going into our run healthy and full effectiveness will cover having to throw Mort/Elder for a few games.. The offense is head and shoulders above any other team.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I firmly believe that our playoff run hinges mostly on the elbow of Fried. Strider/Fried going into our run healthy and full effectiveness will cover having to throw Mort/Elder for a few games.. The offense is head and shoulders above any other team.
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AA has to acquire a TOR starter this offseason imo. With Fried only having 1 more year left and who knows with Morton at his age and the questions around Soroka and Wright we will need a top starter for the run we are on. The FA class is really good this offseason and next so that will help keep our assets in the minors if AA wants to go that route.
 
I don't think that's really a requirement to get zn ace this off-season. Strider is our ace moving forward. As long as Wright doesn't need shoulder surgery, I think you can pencil in him to be our No. 2. You really only need to find someone to replace Charlie. Luckily, there seems to be a plethora of 3-4 WAR type of pitchers in FA. Between Nola, Stroman, Gray, Urias, Giolito, and Montgomery, there will be plenty of opportunity to find a suitable replacement for Charlie. I also like Mike Clevinger as a bit of a low cost reclamation project. If he stays healthy, he will likely opt out at the end of the year and will likely get a 2 or 3 year deal for more AAV than the 12 million he would make with Chicago.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I firmly believe that our playoff run hinges mostly on the elbow of Fried. Strider/Fried going into our run healthy and full effectiveness will cover having to throw Mort/Elder for a few games.. The offense is head and shoulders above any other team.
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Good thing we can probably just outscore whatever ace and lineup the dodgers trot out there ….
 
The Royals allegedly had some conversations about Brady Singer at the deadline, though I don't know with whom. I wonder if he might be worth checking in on during the offseason, though checking out B-Ref I see he isn't a free agent until after 2027 -- I kind of figured he'd have more service time than that. Anyway, he'd be a reasonably desirable piece, so you have to figure a team with a better farm system would be positioned to out-bid us.
 
Hudson2 said:
AA has to acquire a TOR starter this offseason imo. With Fried only having 1 more year left and who knows with Morton at his age and the questions around Soroka and Wright we will need a top starter for the run we are on. The FA class is really good this offseason and next so that will help keep our assets in the minors if AA wants to go that route.
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How about Fried?
 
bravesfanMatt said:
It should have been clear that the Braves weren't going to make big splashy moves this deadline. I really like the Pierce move and the Lopez move. Both were needed additions. But the Braves have a ton of talent coming back and regardless if the team should rely on them or not is irrelevant...it was still coming back. And when it does, tough decisions are going to be made. Tomorrow, Fried will be activated and Heller was sent down ahead of that. I think he was the only guy left with options.. Then you have Chavez/Lee/Wright possibly a month or so away. That is 3 more spots you have to figure out on the active roster. Cheerios or Mchugh are the next to go.. After that, I wouldn't want to be in AA shoes.. Yates.. Tonkin...Cheerios/Mchugh again, I think JJ has secured his spot barring regression.

wait Lee might have options.. but he isn't going to be optioned.. just like N. Anderson when/if he returns. He has options left, but should be on the big club as well.
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AA mentioned this i think on Tuesday. He said we have alot of guys coming back, and adding more players only makes it more difficult for those roster call ups/downs.
 
With all the pieces the Braves have locked down at discount rates maybe Ohtani is the guy we go for. If we're gonna give up a first best to do it in a year where we have a bottom pick
 
thewupk said:
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Glad it was the Rangers that picked him up and not LA
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Either way Scherzer has really F'd his teams in the A the last couple seasons in the playoffs. I don't see any reason to expect it'll be different this year either
 
Slippyjms said:
With all the pieces the Braves have locked down at discount rates maybe Ohtani is the guy we go for. If we're gonna give up a first best to do it in a year where we have a bottom pick
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There's too much risk in signing Ohtani. If he is injured we are out a top of the rotation starter and a big bat in our lineup. We aren't the Yankees or Mets who can just burn money to mask their incompetence. Beyond that he will likely require a contract that pays him years beyond when he will be worth it. Do we want to be paying Ohtani 60 mill a year in his late 30's?



It will also be very hard to continue to expect players to take discounts to stay here if we are spending 60 million on 1 player.
 
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