TRHLIM

Idk- seems like it worked pretty well. Didn’t we take in a bunch of money ?

Better than taking tax payers money to fund peoples school debt lol. BY FAR
…On tariffs? Yes, we did take in a bunch of money. But I think we could make it simpler. Maybe some sort of proportional tariff that you pay at the end of the year based on how much you import and sell that we outline at the beginning of the year. Businesses could then predictably budget for the tariffs ahead of time and price their products accordingly. And maybe we could exempt some groups from tariffs, such as churches or the poor.
 
No one is stopping you from giving 100% of your income to food banks.

The issue is these people are having more kids and purposefully not marrying anyone to get more benefits.
 
…On tariffs? Yes, we did take in a bunch of money. But I think we could make it simpler. Maybe some sort of proportional tariff that you pay at the end of the year based on how much you import and sell that we outline at the beginning of the year. Businesses could then predictably budget for the tariffs ahead of time and price their products accordingly. And maybe we could exempt some groups from tariffs, such as churches or the poor.
Sounds like you hate money coming in from outside the US to fund programs you hold so dear
 
No one is stopping you from giving 100% of your income to food banks.

The issue is these people are having more kids and purposefully not marrying anyone to get more benefits.
This appears to be a married couple to begin with, do you want them to marry a third person?

But this is what y’all wanted. I heard about birth rates all damn year and how we need to stop population decline. How do you expect people to do that *and* feed all those extra kids?
 
This appears to be a married couple to begin with, do you want them to marry a third person?

But this is what y’all wanted. I heard about birth rates all damn year and how we need to stop population decline. How do you expect people to do that *and* feed all those extra kids?
I’m just telling you how it’s set up and gamed down here.

Not the specific example. It’s a common theme.
 
I’m just telling you how it’s set up and gamed down here.

Not the specific example. It’s a common theme.
Sure, but even then it drives a pretty massive conflict between two goals of the right. The very same people you (collectively) want to have a gaggle of rugrats are the ones you don’t want taking government money. While I’m able to understand the notion that charities and other non-public options should be picking up that slack, what do we do as a country if they don’t or can’t? Let the kids starve? Over-burden the CPS system even further?
 
The position I understand least is that of the small-state conservative nationalist. You want more Americans to have kids and kick out the foreigners. You want to get rid of aid to other countries and restrict international trade. But then when it comes time to feed those extra American kids affected by the pro-nationalist trade decisions it’s back to bootstrapping? These are the Americans I’ve been scolded for not prioritizing over kids in Guatemala.

The reason most protectionist policies have been considered left-leaning is because it’s not a free market solution and thus puts a strain on the citizens that is traditionally overcome through broad domestic welfare programs that you don’t like. What is your solution?
 
No im not OK with it but it's also an inevitability in this world. Children who grow up in fatherless homes solider every day and we subsidize that suffering.

The more you subsidize something, the more you get of it.
 

I don’t entirely fail to grasp the feeling of frustration when someone is getting that much money in SNAP benefits, but like do you want people to have fewer kids or do you want those kids to go hungry? Stopping kids from starving is basically the number one thing I’m willing to be taxed for.

Lets start by making them agree not to buy cigarettes, vapes, alcohol and guns while they are on foodstamps. If those things are a higher priority to you than your kids needs then why should I care. I have no issues with helping people in need. I do however have issues with helping people who are only in need because they prioritize wants over needs.
 
Let’s start by making them agree not to buy cigarettes, vapes, alcohol and guns while they are on foodstamps. If those things are a higher priority to you than your kids needs then why should I care. I have no issues with helping people in need. I do however have issues with helping people who are only in need because they prioritize wants over needs.
Unlike many on the left, I actually do agree with this, though I think some of the challenges with policing this side of it come down to administrative cost. There is a pervasive attitude on the left that people have a right to convenience. I don’t think everyone has a fundamental right to live as they please in their own house or eat whatever they want. I’d personally support things like food or housing assistance moving to a direct support model where we build more basic accommodations for those in need of shelter and provide specific food items for the hungry.
 

Pardoned J6 terrorist gets life in prison after plotting revenge terrorist attacks hoping to spark a civil war. He was the fourth to be "let in" via smashed window. I am sure a patriot like this wouldnt have attempted to harm Pence or members of Congress. Too bad its state charges or Trump could pardon him too and hire him for the DoJ.
 
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