Nerfherders
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The Mets had their own pitching injury problems this year as well. I wouldn't really ever hang that on the coach - it's just that all pitchers are ticking time bombs.
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50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I don't know about the rest of the team, but I think Hyers helped Olson. Maybe it was just Olson being streaky, but he seemed steadier this season coming out of his slumps. Don't get me wrong, Olson is still going to have weeks where Little League would be his ceiling but his power--while still solid--may be tapering a bit and he may need to make adjustments both to maintain power but also to think the doubles are better than strikeouts.
Correct.
I guess I'm out of the loop regarding all the pitching dev going on with the Mets. Perhaps some folks can share some details?
Which young guys did they develop recently?
Which struggling post-hype guys found their footing and became successful?
Which old pitchers improved once drinking from the Mets fountain of youth?
Which young guys did they develop recently?
Which struggling post-hype guys found their footing and became successful?
Which old pitchers improved once drinking from the Mets fountain of youth?
MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
Out of curiosity, are there any MLB limits on the size of coaching staffs? If a team wanted to hire one hitting coach for right-handed hitters, one for lefties and one for switch hitters, could they do that?
Well, if he can learn to be more selective about when he goes, and put himself in advantageous positions, this could be a good thing.
Here is my tinfoil hat theory - AA wasn’t allowed to hire his manager, he’s taking the coaching staff into his own hands in hiring a more analytical mind to handle the pitching stuff.
I have zero way to prove that’s true. Just crossed my mind earlier. It’s also worth remembering that we fired our director of pitching development a few weeks ago, who was 61. It seems like a house cleaning on the pitching side of our developmental program. Whether people think that’s a good decision is probably up for debate, but it seems clear to me they want younger, more analytically inclined minds on the pitching side of the organization.
Didn’t you want to modernize the coaching staff? Now this is a problem?
AA could modernize the staff by hiring the machine learning intern from Cornell I had this summer, but that's not going to make the team better.
The idea is to bring in talent from successful teams, not from the fucking Mets. Surely this isn't hard to understand?
MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
Even this past season Acuna stole nine bases in 10 attempts. He's at 25 of 29 stolen bases the last two seasons. You don't want him going for 70 again, but I don't think it risks shredding his knee a third time if he becomes a guy who steals, say, 15-20 bases a season at a high success rate.
We had two hitting coaches just a few years ago. Plus Chipper was consulting.
Metaphysicist
Not Actually Brian Hunter
I think this an interesting question. Looking at their staff this year, in the rotation they had:
- David Peterson (Post-Hype): Went from just being a AAAA guy to a 3 win SP in 2024 and an All-Star in 2025 (though that second half . . . not pretty)
- Clay Holmes (Old Guy) -- successfully transitioned to SP at 32
- Griffin Canning -- We threw this guy in the garbage and Mets somehow immediately turned him into a solid SP. Don't really think you can put the Achilles injury on Hefner.
- Tylor Megill: Another "just some guy" who had consistently improved and quietly put up a 3.49 FIP over ~150 IP as a SP the last couple of years. Blew out his arm and had TJS (can't throw any stones from our glass house there).
Frankly, that's a lot of decent innings pulled basically out of thin air. Other notables who he helped "find it again" during his tenure:
- Taijuan Walker -- Post hype guy, went to Mets, became an All-Star, got a big contract from Phillies
- Luis Severino -- Resurrected him on a one year deal and tricked the A's into blowing a bunch of money on him.
- Edwin Diaz -- Terrible first year with Mets in 2019; Hefner hired for 2020, and he's been lights out since.
Seems like the Mets haven't really given him any "young arms" (prior to McLean this year, who was good) to work with. I don't care enough to look at the randos in their bullpen and try and figure out which of them exceeded expectations.
Hard to really complain about what he did with what he had.
You seem to be confusing organizational success with the quality of individual coaches. You may find this hard to believe, but there are good coaches trapped in bad organizations, just like there are good players on bad teams.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I think Acuna (and Ohtani) for that matter were/are just padding their two-dimensional stats without regard for the value of the base in terms of game situation. If the Braves need him to steal a bunch of bases to win games, he should do that. If he's just racking up garbage time stats it just takes a toll on the body (and risks injury) for no valuable reason behind a number on the scoresheet.
zbhargrove
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In his 6 years with the Mets, they had the 6th best ERA in the NL
bravesnumberone
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The Braves hired a 39-year-old data-driven guy, just not to the spot on the coaching staff we thought