Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread


What active and imminent threat could the floating survivors really pose to us?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...uran-president-convicted-drug-trafficking.amp

President Trump announced Friday he intends to issue a "full and complete pardon" to former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, while simultaneously reaffirming his support for presidential candidate Nasry "Tito" Asfura just days before Hondurans head to the polls.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said Hernández, who was sentenced in New York last year to 45 years in prison for conspiring with drug traffickers to move over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S., was "treated very harshly and unfairly."


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Funny, not ha-ha, how 2 or 3 years ago the word bandied most often was, " tyranny" yet those same people when faced with the animal in the flesh turning a deaf ear- blind eye.
But public health measures being a bridge too far ...
What a bunch of ignoramouses
 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...uran-president-convicted-drug-trafficking.amp

President Trump announced Friday he intends to issue a "full and complete pardon" to former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, while simultaneously reaffirming his support for presidential candidate Nasry "Tito" Asfura just days before Hondurans head to the polls.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said Hernández, who was sentenced in New York last year to 45 years in prison for conspiring with drug traffickers to move over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S., was "treated very harshly and unfairly."


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Well Pete made sure a few drug dealers were dead, so he had some wiggle room to get some pardon kickbacks from a richer drug dealer while keeping the ledger in the black. Shrewd work.
 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...uran-president-convicted-drug-trafficking.amp

President Trump announced Friday he intends to issue a "full and complete pardon" to former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, while simultaneously reaffirming his support for presidential candidate Nasry "Tito" Asfura just days before Hondurans head to the polls.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump said Hernández, who was sentenced in New York last year to 45 years in prison for conspiring with drug traffickers to move over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S., was "treated very harshly and unfairly."


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extrajudicial actions can take more than one form
 

In a depressing way this both strengthens and undercuts the argument that we need to pause visas and asylum requests of this nature. I think it’s pretty likely this wasn’t some terrorist sleeper cell, but these people who risked their lives for our operations in Afghanistan are also prime candidates for PTSD and other emotional health issues. Perhaps we shouldn’t have done all that war stuff that necessitated putting all these people at risk.
 
Foof For Thought
By Jesse F. Ferguson

Can you imagine a moment when an authoritarian regime was undone from within—where its public support collapsed and its regime crumbled? No, this isn’t futurecasting or wishcasting for the end of the Trump administration. This is looking in the rearview mirror at the triumph over the USSR, 35 years ago.

In the Americana version of the retelling, it was the triumph of democratic ideals over authoritarian control, the power of freedom defeating oppression. But the scholars who actually examined the evidence found something important in how it got done. As economist János Kornai documented, the USSR’s collapse stemmed from something far more mundane and far more powerful: empty shelves and broken promises.

In the view of economist historian Michael Kort, once the Soviet economy began to stagnate, it could no longer satisfy the growing consumer demands and the regime began to lose their support—an erosion that contributed to the USSR’s ultimate collapse.

The lesson is clear: Authoritarianism doesn’t fall because people reject it in the abstract. It falls when it fails to put food on the table.

This matters right now because we’re watching Donald Trump’s second administration embrace increasingly authoritarian tactics. Many of us—me included—are deeply concerned about threats to democracy, the erosion of norms, and the dangers of fascism. These concerns aren’t wrong. They’re real and they’re urgent.

But they’re not enough. And if we’re being honest, they’re not what most Americans are thinking about when they wake up in the morning.


I’ll admit something uncomfortable: Much of the Democratic political class, including me, doesn’t necessarily live in a world where the cost of living has to be our first or only concern. We can afford to think abstractly about democratic institutions and constitutional principles. Most voters can’t. They’re thinking about whether they can afford gas, whether their kids’ schools are good, whether they’ll have enough money for retirement, and whether they can pay for health care when they get sick.

The polling data makes this brutally clear. According to Navigator Research, 61% of voters say inflation and the cost of living is most important for the President and Congress to focus on. But only 25% think Trump and Republicans in Congress are actually focused on it. That’s a 36-point gap between what people want and what they’re getting. On healthcare, the gap is 27 points. On Social Security and Medicare, it’s 24 points. On jobs and the economy, it’s 22 points.

Meanwhile, Trump is over-focused on immigration by 43 points and on transgender issues by 17 points. He promised to focus on costs. Instead, he’s focused on culture wars and authoritarian power grabs.

And here’s the thing: Voters are noticing. Gallup data from August 2025 shows Trump’s overall approval rating sits at 40%—essentially unchanged from his first-term average of 41%. His approval on foreign affairs, education, and other issues has barely moved. But his approval on the economy has collapsed from 52% during his first term to just 37% now. That’s a 15-point crater in what was supposed to be his greatest strength.

This isn’t speculation about what might happen. It’s happening. Trump’s tariffs are raising prices on everyday goods. Republicans in Congress just passed the largest cuts to Medicaid in American history—cuts that will rip healthcare away from millions of seniors, children, people with disabilities, and people fighting cancer. And right now, they’re deadset on taking away tax credits that help middle-class families afford health insurance.

Voters can see what’s happening to their wallets. And smart campaigns are already making the connection explicit.

It was on display in the Democratic victories in Virginia and New Jersey. Exit polling shows that Abigail Spanberger won by 27 points among people (48%) who said the economy was the most important issue. Similarly, Mikie Sherill won by 33 points among the people (32%) who put economy first. In 2024, Trump won by 63 points among the people who put the economy as the top issue.

In Virginia, Spanberger ran on her Affordable Virginia plan to tackle healthcare, housing and energy costs. And, some of her top advertising laid out that cost argument for voters and the consequences of Trump’s policies that were raising costs. In New Jersey, Sherill ran on a cost and affordability agenda with a clear focus on lowering energy bills. Neither ran an ad on authoritarianism, fascism or the threat to democracy—and they didn’t have to.

Groups across the country, including Unrig Our Economy, Protect Our Care, and the League of Conservation Voters and House Majority Forward, have been telling this story, too.

These campaigns work because they connect abstract policy to concrete consequences. They translate Washington decisions into kitchen-table impacts. They show betrayal in terms people can feel in their daily lives. Unfortunately, there’s not yet enough of them at scale.

This is how you defeat authoritarianism. Not by screaming the word “fascist” louder but by revealing the economic betrayal at its core. Trump promised to make life more affordable. Instead, he’s making it harder and more expensive while consolidating power and enriching his allies. He said he’d lower costs, but instead he’s focused on retribution, revenge, and rehashing culture wars. That’s the story. That’s the vulnerability.

Everyone knows that the best way to truly defend the institution of democracy is to show it works, that it’s responsive to the people. Similarly, the best way to undermine authoritarianism is to show it’s not.

The Soviet Union didn’t fall because dissidents convinced people that authoritarianism was philosophically wrong. It fell because people stood in line for hours to buy bread that wasn’t there, because they watched Western living standards pull further ahead every year, because the system promised prosperity and delivered poverty.

Trump’s authoritarianism will fail the same way—not because we convince people it’s authoritarian, but because we show them it’s expensive.

Maybe the recent elections have proved to us that old advice can be adapted to today’s moment. Maybe we can say the descriptor for these midterms is: “It’s the economy, fascist.”
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History tells us that Hamas came to power 1990s (?) because they were simply picking up the trash.
 
Letters from an American
December 2, 2025
Heather Cox Richardson
Dec 03, 2025

The news of last Friday, November 28, that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told a Joint Special Operations commander overseeing an attack on a small vessel carrying 11 people on September 2 to “kill everybody” is shaping up to be a fight over control of the United States government.

A missile strike shattered the boat and set it afire, but two men survived. A second strike fulfilled Hegseth’s order. According to Alex Horton and Ellen Nakashima of the Washington Post, the commander, Admiral Frank “Mitch” Bradley, said “the survivors were still legitimate targets because they could theoretically call other traffickers to retrieve them and their cargo.” In a report, the Joint Special Operations Command said the second strike was not to kill survivors, but to remove a navigation hazard.

There had already been significant pushback in the first place over the strikes, which legal experts say are unlawful. But the so-called double tap is illegal and a war crime even under the Trump administration’s flimsy justification for the strikes.

Lawmakers of both parties have pushed back on what Senator Angus King (I-ME) yesterday called “a stone cold war crime.” The Republican chairs of the House and Senate Armed Services committees, Representative Mike Rogers (R-AL) and Senator Roger Wicker (R-MS), have vowed to launch investigations of the incident, as well as of the larger operation.

Yesterday, Hegseth and President Donald Trump began to distance themselves from the strike. Last night, Hegseth pinned the blame for the order on Admiral Bradley, posting: “Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made—on the September 2 mission and all others since.”

Today, at a televised meeting, Trump’s Cabinet officers rallied around the president, telling him he is brilliant and a miracle worker, and Trump threw his support behind Hegseth. Clearly, the president intends to stand by the weekend Fox News Channel host he installed in one of the most important positions in the United States government.

Shortly after the meeting, PBS NewsHour journalist Nick Schifrin reported that a U.S. official told him “[t]he US military struck the boat on September 2_four_times: twice to kill the 11 people who were on board, and twice more to sink the boat.”

Trump is slipping. After he drew attention by posting wildly on social media last night, today’s meeting was clearly designed to demonstrate that the president is alert, active, and on top of things. But this made-for-television photo opportunity was anything but a display of competence: Trump could not stay awake while his Cabinet members were praising him, and so we had the wild visual of Secretary of State Marco Rubio praising Trump as the only man who could end Russia’s war in Ukraine, gesturing at the president sitting next to him, who was, to all appearances, sound asleep.

At the Cabinet meeting today, Trump announced that “the word ‘affordability’ is a Democrat scam,” insisting falsely that his economic policies were bringing down costs. Trump won the 2024 election in large part by promising to bring down inflation, but prices have risen under him at the same time that the economy is slowing.

G. Elliott Morris of Strength in Numbers pointed out today that Americans’ concerns about affordability are not just about costs, though. They are concerns about social mobility, economic inequality, and fairness, values that run opposite of Trump’s focus on funneling contracts and privileges to well-connected billionaires. People are unlikely to change their minds about the unreasonable power of that “Epstein class” as the deadline for the release of the Epstein files gets closer.

Now Trump’s defense secretary, already in trouble for sharing classified information about a strike on Yemen’s Houthis over a non-secure messaging app on which a reporter had been included, is tangled up in a war crime. Today, libertarian conservative writer George Will noted in the Washington Post: “Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth seems to be a war criminal. Without a war. An interesting achievement.” Will went on to refer to the Trump administration as a “moral slum.”

On Sunday, Miranda Devine of the New York Post reported on a leaked document written for congressional leadership by retired and active-duty FBI agents and analysts of the first six months of Kash Patel’s leadership of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They said Patel is “in over his head” and that deputy FBI director Dan Bongino is “something of a clown.” Both Patel and Bongino are arrogant, the report says, and have an “unfortunate obsession with social media.” Under Patel, they say, the FBI is a “rudderless ship” and “all f*cked up.”

Trump made it clear during the Cabinet meeting that he has embraced the white nationalism of Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who reject the nation’s longstanding principle of welcoming immigrants and have vowed to purge the nation of them, concentrating on those who are Brown and Black. Yesterday, Noem called them “killers, leeches, and entitlement junkies.”

“I hear…Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dollars, billions,” Trump said of Minnesota. “Every year, billions of dollars, and they contribute nothing. The welfare is like 88%, they contribute nothing. I don’t want ‘em in our country, I’ll be honest with you, okay. Somebody would say, ‘Oh, that’s not politically correct.’ I don’t care. I don’t want ‘em in our country. Their country’s no good for a reason. Their country stinks, and we don’t want ‘em in our country. I can say that about other countries, too. I can say it about other countries, too. We don’t want them the hell, we gotta—we have to rebuild our country.”

Trump embraced the idea, popular with white nationalists and the neo-Nazi right wing, that the U.S. must reject the multiculturalism of our entire history or perish. “You know, our country’s at a tipping point,” he said. “We could go bad. We’re at a tipping point. I don’t know [if] people mind me saying that, but I’m saying it. We could go one way or the other, and we’re going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country.”

Then he turned on an elected representative, using dehumanizing rhetoric historically associated with violence against a people. “Ilhan Omar [D-MN] is garbage. She’s garbage. Her friends are garbage. These aren’t people that work, these aren’t people that say, ‘Let’s go. Come on, let’s make this place great.’ These are people that do nothing but complain. They complain, and from where they came from, they got nothing. You know, if they came from Paradise, and they said, ‘This isn’t Paradise.’ But when they come from hell, and they complain and do nothing but b*tch, we don’t want them in our country. Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.”

The Cabinet appeared to applaud, although it is not clear whether they were agreeing or hoping to stop him from talking like a Nazi.

Tonight the administration put Miller and Noem’s policy into place, pausing all immigration applications from 19 countries and halting the processing of green cards and citizenship applications. Federal authorities say they will target Somali immigrants in Minneapolis–St. Paul in an upcoming sweep, although Jaylani Hussain, executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, says about 95% of the Somalis in Minnesota are already U.S. citizens and that about 50% were born in the U.S.

According to Mike Balsamo and Steve Karnowski of the Associated Press, Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey says Trump’s attack on Somalis “violates the moral fabric of what we stand by in this country as Americans. They have started businesses and created jobs. They have added to the cultural fabric of what Minneapolis is.” Minneapolis police—many of them Somali—will not work with federal officials in the sweep.

Also tonight, Trump announced that because former president Joe Biden used an autopen, “[a]ny and all Documents, Proclamations, Executive Orders, Memorandums, or Contracts,” pardons, and commutations he signed are “invalid.” This is bonkers, of course. All modern presidents have used autopens, including Trump himself, and there is no mechanism in the Constitution for erasing the actions of a previous president by fiat.

More to the point, as Yunior Rivas of Democracy Docket pointed out, Trump himself said he had no idea who crypto billionaire Changpeng Zhao was after having pardoned him. And in March, Trump told reporters he had not signed the proclamation invoking the 1798 Alien Enemies Act, although his signature appears on the proclamation in the Federal Register.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hegseths-signal-chat-pentagon-inspector-general-report/

WashingtonThe Pentagon's internal watchdog determined Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth jeopardized sensitive military information and could have endangered American service members when he shared certain details about U.S. military operations in Yemen in a private Signal group chat earlier this year, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the report's findings.

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This moron is in the news every goddamned day. Just get rid of him already.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hegseths-signal-chat-pentagon-inspector-general-report/

WashingtonThe Pentagon's internal watchdog determined Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth jeopardized sensitive military information and could have endangered American service members when he shared certain details about U.S. military operations in Yemen in a private Signal group chat earlier this year, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the report's findings.

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This moron is in the news every goddamned day. Just get rid of him already.
If you told me that Kash Patel and Pete Hegseth were put in their roles just to make people criticize the FBI and Military leaders less when they do the standard awful shit they do in every other Administration I’d believe it.
 
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