Jeff Kent to the HOF and not Murphy
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Mad Dog Murph
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All HOF’s, but especially baseball, are and will always be a joke.
44 war outfielders just aren't gonna make it. He's the Johan sanatana of position players.
Kent was always borderline and it's hilarious he got in before bonds considering their issues.
I will say this bodes well for andruw in a future committee vote if the writers don't get him in this year or next.
Kent was always borderline and it's hilarious he got in before bonds considering their issues.
I will say this bodes well for andruw in a future committee vote if the writers don't get him in this year or next.
Lou Whitaker never gonna get in at 75 WAR lol
He def should be in. Wild that he's not. Not sure what eras committe he belongs to at this point but the next one should vote him in.
edit: Looks like he belongs in the cotemporary era. No idea why he wasn't even on this ballot. Kinda absurd.
50PoundHead
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Murphy is in my pantheon of all-time Braves' favorites and I think he deserves HoF recognition, but (and everyone has a big but) Kent's numbers were better. Part of that is longevity, but as great as Murphy was in the early-1980s, he fell off pretty badly later. Still and all, Murphy is one of baseball's nice guys and that should give him a few bonus points.
DirkPiggler
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I know this isn't the way it should be done objectively, but I'm always going to look at it this way and a Braves and a Dale Murphy fan.
Any hall of fame that includes Jim Rice, and Harold f**cking Baines should also include Dale Murphy. If Murph had played the bulk of his career in NY, CHI, LA, or BOS he would have been in easily on the writer's vote.
No real argument there since Rice and Baines are in. But id rather not just keep putting in the hall of good players in
DirkPiggler
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Why does Murphy have to be the dividing line though? Let him in and then raise the bar.
Just because he's a Brave? Murph just wasn't good enough for long enough. For an OF the Andruw/Lofton types are my diving line and anything below that level shouldn't be in.
Gotta compare Murphy to players in his era. Dude was pretty good
DirkPiggler
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Yes because he's a Brave. I as a fan am under no obligation to be objective.
And what @kgrecw said. He was one of the top five players in the game from 1982 through 1988. You could make an argument that he was #2 in the NL behind Schmidt, at least for the first few years of that period.
It bothers me that some players (generally those in the larger markets I mentioned above) get passes for being elite for a short time and having their careers cut short due to injury, while others do not.
Yes he was great for 7 years. That still doesn't make a HOFer when the rest of your career is meh at best.
Mattingly is very comparable to Murphy. And he was in the biggest market of them all and still hasn't gotten in.
Pretty good is not a HOFer.
Among position players in the 80s Murphy ranks 12th in WAR despite having the most games played among anybody of that decade. And he was virtually non existant in the 70s or 90s.