Economics Thread

It’s not? My stance remains the left and the right are bad at Economics and that government has been mostly useless the past decade or two. I’ve come around a bit on filibuster reform as a result of how bad the country has gotten at legislating. Why wouldn’t we be able to at least drop the threshold to say 55 votes in the Senate?
Are you not able to point to a single place in the country where a dem policy is providing exceptional results?

This doesnt have to be national

As far as I can tell... "healthcare" is a big thing for dems and currently, the signature healthcare policy is bankrupting people and dems are demanding unlimited subsidies to keep it afloat
 
Are you not able to point to a single place in the country where a dem policy is providing exceptional results?

This doesnt have to be national

As far as I can tell... "healthcare" is a big thing for dems and currently, the signature healthcare policy is bankrupting people and dems are demanding unlimited subsidies to keep it afloat
I’m going to level with you, I just don’t think our government works very well regardless of who’s in power. I disagree with the more libertarian/conservative bunch here in that I do support wider regulation in the form of worker and consumer protections as I don’t think the market can effectively police mistreatment on the part of large companies and I think the Dems have largely done a better job on these fronts.

I also don’t agree that Dems are worse on healthcare than Republicans. I think the system is broken, but I still believe that the solution is to have the government provide that care. Dems have not been effective in getting this done, but I can’t really fault them for this because they’ve never had the votes to do it. Others will disagree, and that’s why I’ve taken thethe to task in this case on tariffs and executive action. The answer isn’t to have the President just do it anyway, it’s to find solutions that work from both sides of the aisle.
 
I’m going to level with you, I just don’t think our government works very well regardless of who’s in power. I disagree with the more libertarian/conservative bunch here in that I do support wider regulation in the form of worker and consumer protections as I don’t think the market can effectively police mistreatment on the part of large companies and I think the Dems have largely done a better job on these fronts.

I also don’t agree that Dems are worse on healthcare than Republicans. I think the system is broken, but I still believe that the solution is to have the government provide that care. Dems have not been effective in getting this done, but I can’t really fault them for this because they’ve never had the votes to do it. Others will disagree, and that’s why I’ve taken thethe to task in this case on tariffs and executive action. The answer isn’t to have the President just do it anyway, it’s to find solutions that work from both sides of the aisle.
"Im gonna level with you, I cant point to a single policy nationwide that is producing good outcomes. Anyhow, ill be voting D"
 
"Im gonna level with you, I cant point to a single policy nationwide that is producing good outcomes. Anyhow, ill be voting D"
I can’t point to positive outcomes I think Republicans are driving either. As I just said, I think Dems are closer in their vision of how we protect individuals when there aren’t proper incentive structures for corporations to do so. That’s about all I can hope for in the current environment and I’ll vote accordingly until someone provides a better option or there’s a revolution.
 
"Protect individuals in current corporate environment" what the hell is this guy talking about
Long story short, I think we’ve allowed some companies to have so much power within our society that the so-called invisible hand doesn’t always matter. It typically does in terms of supply and demand, where the left (and now Donald Trump personally) usually fucks everything up, but companies have become so insulated from the consequences of negative externalities that the government’s role sometimes is to intervene.
 
So big sandwhich is what is driving your vote to complete economic failure across the board

Cool
Yep, different strokes for different folks. I accept that regulation will stymie economic growth, but I differ with you on where the lines need to be drawn and what should prompt regulation. Your dismissive tone is duly noted.
 
Yep, different strokes for different folks. I accept that regulation will stymie economic growth, but I differ with you on where the lines need to be drawn and what should prompt regulation. Your dismissive tone is duly noted.
I believe myself to be a rational mind and I simply cant rationalize your priorities
 
Yep, different strokes for different folks. I accept that regulation will stymie economic growth, but I differ with you on where the lines need to be drawn and what should prompt regulation. Your dismissive tone is duly noted.
It’s not lost on anyone you described the “idea” that the Dems are better at workers rights but actually didn’t name a single instance of such

I mean…. Talk about a glass of water voter

Jeez man this is embarrassing. This idea is what earns your vote ?
 
It’s not lost on anyone you described the “idea” that the Dems are better at workers rights but actually didn’t name a single instance of such

I mean…. Talk about a glass of water voter

Jeez man this is embarrassing. This idea is what earns your vote ?
Dems are excellent at protecting workers by raising minum wages and delivery fees that lead to complete job loss and less earnings.

I posted a recent example of this the other day.

Im sure the leftist politicians felt really good about themselves. Im sure mqt felt great about voting for people standing up for workers to get paid more!

But what was the outcome? Less earnings.

But outcomes do not matter to these people. Only feelings
 
Dems are excellent at protecting workers by raising minum wages and delivery fees that lead to complete job loss and less earnings.

I posted a recent example of this the other day.

Im sure the leftist politicians felt really good about themselves. Im sure mqt felt great about voting for people standing up for workers to get paid more!

But what was the outcome? Less earnings.

But outcomes do not matter to these people. Only feelings
 
Dems are excellent at protecting workers by raising minum wages and delivery fees that lead to complete job loss and less earnings.

I posted a recent example of this the other day.

Im sure the leftist politicians felt really good about themselves. Im sure mqt felt great about voting for people standing up for workers to get paid more!

But what was the outcome? Less earnings.

But outcomes do not matter to these people. Only feelings
No, I’ve likened tariffs to the minimum wage increase for this reason. I don’t expect or want the government to set rates. I want the government to say shit like “hey, maybe you can’t fire someone for being gay” or “hey, maybe you can’t expect employees to work off the clock.”
 
No, I’ve likened tariffs to the minimum wage increase for this reason. I don’t expect or want the government to set rates. I want the government to say shit like “hey, maybe you can’t fire someone for being gay” or “hey, maybe you can’t expect employees to work off the clock.”
Its fascinating to me that you admit to prioritizing something that is not a problem at all in 2025 America over things like government fraud, endless debt, pro crime, failed programs across the board, hundreds of other failures
 
Its fascinating to me that you admit to prioritizing something that is not a problem at all in 2025 America over things like government fraud, endless debt, pro crime, failed programs across the board, hundreds of other failures
Government fraud and endless debt are a bipartisan endeavor, and I think neither side has a handle on how to handle crime or government programs. My main sticking point on programs and criminal justice reform is that I think both can be reformed.
 
Government fraud and endless debt are a bipartisan endeavor, and I think neither side has a handle on how to handle crime or government programs. My main sticking point on programs and criminal justice reform is that I think both can be reformed.
Its not though. We see how Texas and Florida can financially operate vs New York, Minnesota, California, etc

You cant just say "they're both bad" because one side is very clearly and evidently wasting and or stealing money at scale we do not see from the other
 
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