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Start with the manager. The three September's under him have been a disaster.

You're right BJ is probably the league's MVP this year:) I know Schafer's career numbers are not great, but for the 2013 season he has done a better job than BJ. I throw out BJ's career numbers as part of the question why did the Braves pay him such a huge contract. Honestly can anyone...

Schafer actually makes contact while BJ has too many empty at bats Career wise BJ has 1160 K's in 3937 at bats ..ouch!!!

Good career? Not sure about that. Curious what makes you think he is better than Schafer? Look at the numbers.

Honestly what in the world did Wren and the Braves scouts see in BJ to offer him such a huge contract? IMO he is currently 5th on the OF depth chart with Heyward out. Not even sure if he warrants a playoff roster spot. I know Wren and Fredi will have him on the roster, but he truly does not...

I don't think they will panic, but Wren owes this team by checking all possibilities. Don't think there is an OF available out there worthy of bringing in, but he has to check. Pence could be available. With a broken jaw in two places Wren as to be thinking as if Heyward is done for the year...

Just read a scouting report on Elliot......doesn't walk much and strikes out too much. Currently batting .179. Seriously Wren? WHY?

Chip didn't really pick up that HR based on his call. QUOTE=sentenza;33533]CJs 3-run homer! http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?c_id=atl&content_id=29912979&partnerId=as_mlb_20130821_11046544

Agreed....pitching continues to be solid if not superb.

Need to get healthy soon because the offense has been really lacking lately. Hopefully, Heyward is OK because he was playing some of his best baseball in a couple of years IMO. The lineup last few days resembled Gwinnett's and results were similar too.

Whose spot does he take?

EB > Janish? Offensively no doubt. Defensively not sure if EB could be even a fill in for Simba and Andrelton will need some rest. Losing Pena really hurt more than most people outside of the ATL realized. Too bad Pastornicky can't field because he would be a good replacment.

I think that nightmare will forever be entrenched in Braves fans for a long time and why a few of us are left wringing our hands . At least while Fredi is the manager.

corrected.

Pirates up 9-7. Oooops...read it wrong...nats win 9-7

I know....I am one of them and its frustrating. It's like right side of brain is saying..'braves are up by 8 games...relax and enjoy'. And left side is saying 'team is not playing well and will collapse soon'. I would feel better if this team could string some wins in a row and/or win a few...

I hope you are wrong too, but the proof is in the pudding right now. Just an mediocre team that had a hot first couple of weeks. Actually less than mediocre...today's lost makes them 20-23 since June 6th (saw stat on network last night). Wren (I guess Fredi too) have to determine what is the...

losing Venters and EOF has not hurt this team as much as the offense being a huge disappointment. How many times has the RP's let this team down? Granted Loe was horrible today, but look at the box score...4 hits in 8 innings against a rookie starter and mediocre RP. They just can't mount...

Wren has to put on his vegas visor and try decide if he should gamble on the offense cranking it up the last 2 months of the season and purchase 2 RP's or figure the O will continue to struggle and go get a front line SP. (if there is one available). He has 6 days to decide.

now, now...we have 3 more at bats so don't give just yet. :eusa_naughty: