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CrazyTrain probably thought you were suggesting that Bryce hire Ray Allen as his agent. LOL.

You called yourself an engineer because you work as a sales engineer. Not sure that gives you the right to call anybody else a moron.

You consider yourself an intelligent fan but completely disregard how modern front offices evaluate trades. i.e surplus value I consider myself an intelligent fan as well but I am all for the DH coming to the National League. Ideally, there wouldn't be a DH in either league. But, the DH isn't...

175 million in surplus value. Oh boy. Would take something like Wright, Touki, Pache, Soroka +

How do you feel when the Moneyball theory succeeds though? Because more often than not, it does. Advanced analytics doesn't guarantee success. It shows trends. There is still a human element to the game so of course, there will be times when it "fails". But, teams that utilize this extra...

I'm fine with putting Harper/Machado in another category because obviously the talent level of Harper/Machado supercedes that of Upton/Lowe/Uggla. But, it doesn't matter if Harper puts up Mike Trout level seasons each and every year of his new contract if the braves can't afford to add big...

I care because I remember what the BJ Upton contract did to the braves. What the Derek Lowe contract did. Dan Uggla. And Harper or Machado would be 2-3x that amount. We don’t want to see that happen again. Because those large record breaking contracts hardly ever work out in the team’s favor...

Couldn't they just use Mac in the Duda role?

LOL so true. Situations aren’t comparable.

Um, Individual-1 absolutely did which is what caused this entire argument to begin. TL;DR Ender is a great defender but he isn’t Simmons great

Great analysis! That’s pretty obvious. 1. Get worse 2. Get better 3. Stay the same

Fair point. But, what's the harm in adding one more? To save 900k? And do what with that 900k? The 1.5 million Freeman projects to earn isn't going to prevent us from signing another player. The more pitchers we have, the better. Signing freeman doesn't mean that our other young pitchers will...

Well, only if Freeman was willing to a accept league minimum salary. I’d be surprised if he didn’t get a bigger offer than league minimum. 1.5m for an average lefty out of the pen isn’t a bad deal for the Braves.

They also had the luxury of some serious power behind Betts. Outside of Freddie, the braves currently don’t have enough run producers hitting behind Acuna to warrant batting him leadoff.

Shhhh. It was. But, I wanted CrazyTrain (CrazyTrade) to do it in hopes that it would show them just how absurd the trade idea was.

The Braves weren’t a team with poor starting pitching last year though.

Can you calculate the surplus value of those prospects and compare them to Verlanders surplus value? Don’t forget the contenders premium. Then do the same for Newk/Fried/Bumgarner?

Their contract situation (cost and years of control) combined with their age and there performance is EXACTLY why both verlander and hamels didn’t attract such a package. And that’s exactly what CrazyTrain wants us to do. Trade for him and re-sign him to a deal that’s going to be an albatross on...

Their entire careers of 2 years. Lol. I admire that you are passionate and I doubt there is anything that I can say to change your mind but if AA trades Newk/Fried for Bumgarner, I hope he’s fired. That would be an absurd price to pay. It’s so bad that even Dave Stewart would hang up the phone.

Which is why I said I’d be interested in Bumgarner if the cost was reasonable. Newk/Fried isn’t reasonable. Did the tigers/rangers receive a package similar to Newk/Fried for verlander/hamels? Wonder why.