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And what will a 30 year old Bumgarner be worth if he struggles? Or gets hurt for the third consecutive year? The answer is nothing because he’ll be a free agent at years end. And to the opposite, Fried/Newk’s value will skyrocket if they play well. And you’re right. Who can say? We aren’t...

So is that a yes? That 1 year of Bumgarner is more valuable than the combined value of Newk/Fried?

Your point that we may not have done a good job of acquiring good pitchers may be true. It’s too early to tell. (IMO that’s another reason to NOT trade them and sell low). But, you lost me after your first point. Bumgarner is clearly on a decline and your using ERAs to determine a player’s...

Mainly, FIP. But there are several that metrics that show that he was average this past season and hasn’t been a true ace since 16.

Whoever said that we can win without quality starting pitching? Bumgarner was just a league average pitcher last year. Hasn't been a true ace since 2016 and has declined each year since. That isn't a guy that worth ~40-50M in surplus value. Not to mention, he's not a guy that the Braves should...

Brian Bannister would be an incredible get. So many good names out there. Pete walker, mark prior, charles nagy. Wonder if brian price would be interested?

That isn’t the mismanagement that jpx was referring to. I believe he was referring to the boneheaded decision by Fredi to leave Kimbrel in the bullpen standing next to Eddie rather than going two innings in a must win game.

Easy. That is just how the arbritation system works in baseball. Acuna, especially if his power translates to MLB, will get paid more than Soroka in arbitration. Not to mention, pitchers typically come with higher risk so calling up early to maximize value now vs the extra year control year is a...

This is one of the dumbest threads on this board. Judging a GM 3 months on the job? Any GM could acquire an MVP Player? Do you have many examples where a GM traded spare parts for a player who ended up winning the MVP in year 2? Absurd.

If Camargo becomes a 3 win player then he going to be our starting 3b. In 2017, there were only 10 other players that put up a 3 WAR or higher at 3b according to FanGraphs. 9 in 2016. 10 in 2015. And of those who did produce a higher war, which of them would realistically be available via trade...

Still looks like you’re missing the point, Esteban. He is getting paid 21.5 million no matter what. So what’s the advantage for a team to pay more than they have to? If signs for 7 million, he doesn’t get 28.5 million next year. He will still get 21.5 million. He’ll just get 14.5 million from...

Enscheff, you’re famous lol. From the braves reddit page: “The way to make it happen fairly cheaply (prospect wise) would be to take on some bad contracts. On another board there was a suggestion that we trade Newk, Riley, and filler for Yelich, Tazawa, Chen, and Prado. That would be...

Wonder what it would take to get Carson Kelly from the Cards? If 2018 is truly a lost year and AA decides to not try and piece together a WC team, Inciarte should probably be traded. Don’t know that his value will ever be higher. Not to mention, Inciarte, Teheran and Vizcaino could really bring...

From what I am reading, it seems as if Hart won't be back. Bowman is just the voice of the front office and has recently tweeted that the Braves are looking for someone to be President of Baseball Operations. Out of the candidates mentioned by DOB, I'm hoping for Ben Cherington even though...

I sure hope they wouldn’t. Then again, John Hart is still employed. If Dayton is hired, what are the chances he overpays moose to play 3B?

If the new front office gets Brach for Markakis, they’ll have my vote of support. However, it’s pretty likely that won’t happen considering Markakis will probably end up a negative player next year while Brach will have more than 15 million in surplus value. If the Braves want Brach, they’ll...

Still need someone? Yahoo or espn? PPR or Traditional?

+1 Enscheff I don't post much and I realize Enscheff can be a real hassle to converse with but this is exactly how you should intrepret it. It goes way beyond the in-game interleague play. Do people realize how valuable Matt Kemp becomes if the DH comes to the NL? David Ortiz's value decreases...

Ensheff-- All Hudson 2 was saying was that he would want an extension window granted before trading for him. Doesn't seem like he would trade for Lucroy without it. (Unless he came cheap of course) Is it rare? Absolutely. But, if the Brewers want premium value for a player who only has one year...

I created a list of who I think the next manager will be. Not necessarily my preference, just who I think the candidates will be. Bud Black Bo Porter Terry Pendleton Ned Yost Eddie Perez Walt Weiss John Farrel/Torey Lovullo (Farrell if fired, Lovullo if Farrell is retained) Ron...