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  1. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Another Bernie bill that has zero chance of passing He had to be the most ineffective legislature of all time. Has he ever been the primary sponsor of a bill that became law?
  2. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    I agree this weakens China The concern is whether this weakens the US. This campaign is expensive and we are using all of our munitions to take a dice roll with regime change. Is that worth it? We’ll see
  3. chop2chip

    Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

    As someone not on the left, I can make a case for Gavin against the people he’s going to run against in the primary.
  4. chop2chip

    TLHLIM

    They‘ve found their new Gaza
  5. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Hmmm… let’s go with “civilian concern” Libyans are low IQ thus we shouldn’t concern ourselves with what happens after their liberation. Iranians on the other hand
  6. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    But this is my attempt at steel manning the case for bombing Iran. At the end of the day, I’m not really convinced American interests support getting involved, including “liberating” Iranians.
  7. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    I agree the legal and justification questions are distinct from personal moral discomfort, and the US should be held to the highest standard of accountability — as should Israel and Iran. But asymmetrical criticism isn’t an appeal to moral superiority; it reflects where we actually have...
  8. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Is your principle objection to this war actually process based? I’m skeptical you’d have a different opinion if a bunch of republicans in Congress voted Yes. Regardless, the specific criticisms you’ve had seemed centered around this being a violation of universal human rights. I question the...
  9. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    100% The US and Israel should be held to the highest standard of accountability. Iran should also be held to the same standard. I find cognitive dissonance of “war is bad because civilians could die” not compelling when the status quo was mass execution of innocent civilians. The “not my...
  10. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    It’s sad a school was hit and “100 children died”(healthy skepticism on what Iran reports in the fog of war). I ask sincerely because I don’t have an answer. What should be the consequence of Iran killing 40,000 innocent civilians? Do they just get to do that with impunity? I’m non...
  11. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    I am glad that man is no longer breathing
  12. chop2chip

    2026 ST Thread

    I’ll wait until opening day, but yea… he’s probably done being a TOR guy.
  13. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    not sure about the IQ of the dogs
  14. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    They were begging for deescalation before the strikes. It’s no wonder a $1.5 T a year military can boat race a moronic regime kneecapped from years of sanctions. No one questioning the wisdom of striking Iran thought that the US couldn’t overpower Iran instantly. It’s the aftermath
  15. chop2chip

    Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

    Did a private corporation build the atomic weapon?
  16. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    Air campaign will not achieve the objective of regime change or stabilizing Iran. If that’s the goal, then we’ll need a ground campaign at some point. If folks are against “boots on the ground” then they should at the very least understand why many oppose getting involved in the first place...
  17. chop2chip

    Global Events & Politics Überthread

    Fine. Then state your support for the war. It’s already been so exhausting to see MAGA do the semantics game (“it’s just an operation”) to reconcile their previous positions.
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