2016 Rotation
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I would say that's a good assumption given we don't make a move, but I could see us trying to get somebody in FA as well.
Beyond that, it just depends on performance. We know Teheran, Wood, and Miller are definites. I think Folty has a good chance to stick as well, so it's between the rest for that last spot.
Braves1976
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I think Man-Ban is out of options next year. If so he'll need to be in our rotation or bullpen and I'd prefer him to get a shot in our rotation.
If - and obviously a HUGE if - everyone continues to develop as hoped, I still wonder if Folty might not be looked at as our Kimbrel "replacement". Say Wisler and Banuelos turn into what we hope, you'd have Miller-Teheran-Wood-Wisler-Banuelos with Perez and Jenkins as depth and a back-end of Martin/Grilli/Folty.
Folty's the one guy out of the group that I feel would be a lights-out guy at the back-end - he and Miller obviously have the best "stuff", but I think Mike's also got the best mentality for that role too.
That rotation with that back-end would give you the luxury of chasing Justin or Cespedes AND Weiters if he comes back healthy and Bethancourt doesn't hit and leave money left to take on salary if you needed to go more than 7 deep with SPs.
Of course if Roger's able to get Folty close to his ceiling as a starter, we'd have a *elluva nice problem on our hands.
Folty's the one guy out of the group that I feel would be a lights-out guy at the back-end - he and Miller obviously have the best "stuff", but I think Mike's also got the best mentality for that role too.
That rotation with that back-end would give you the luxury of chasing Justin or Cespedes AND Weiters if he comes back healthy and Bethancourt doesn't hit and leave money left to take on salary if you needed to go more than 7 deep with SPs.
Of course if Roger's able to get Folty close to his ceiling as a starter, we'd have a *elluva nice problem on our hands.
I think the Braves are going to have to come up with 2 impact (~900 OPS) bats before 2017 if they are serious about being a contending team by the time the new ballpark opens. One of those bats will probably have to be signed, and one will probably have to be traded for. If some of the young pitching is used to acquire one of the impact bats, I fully expect a slot in the rotation to be filled by a FA guy on a 2-3 year deal.
Sign JUp to play LF, trade for Tulo to play 3B, and sign a MOR FA starter. Something like that. Who ends up being traded away is totally up in the air.
Sign JUp to play LF, trade for Tulo to play 3B, and sign a MOR FA starter. Something like that. Who ends up being traded away is totally up in the air.
nsacpi
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How much additional salary do you think we would take on next year. By my calculation we are currently at about $65M in obligations for 2016.
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Tapate50
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I think its very long odds Minor is a contributor to the Atlanta Braves in 2017.
Upton isn't one of those guys either (even though I'd love to get him back).
Tapate50
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Getting TWO 900 ops guys in two years is not even realistic. I think the design for this team going forward is the Giants model. No holes, solid OBP lineup top to bottom, and great starting pitching.
yeezus
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Yeah, like tapate said, it's like, not even possible. how many lineups have TWO .900 OPS guys (and we'd have three if you count Freddie).
cajunrevenge
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Too early tell. Folty, Wisler, and Banuelos will all probably get a chance in the rotation this year to lock up a starting spot going into 2016. I am not ready to write Minor off for 2016 either.
JohnAdcox
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I would guess $25M+ for JUp and $10M-$15M for the FA pitcher whenever one of the young guns is traded, so ~$40M added. Ideally the other bat brought in would be cost controlled at a good value, or the other team would pick up some of the tab (like the Kemp trade) in exchange for a better package from the Braves. Otherwise, why trade a young cheap starting pitcher to acquire said bat? If the other impact bat ends up being overly expensive, I wouldn't expect the Braves to give up young starting pitching to acquire it, and they wouldn't need to sign the above mentioned FA pitcher.
The trade for a bat doesn't have to happen next year (it could happen after the 2016 season), but signing JUp is almost a requirement to compete by 2017. There simply aren't any other impact bats hitting the FA market within the next 2 years, and people are delusional if they think this lineup can win much of anything without 2 more legit bats. And yes, by impact I mean ~900 OPS, or at least within spitting distance (850) of that type of production.