A Flock of Smidgens

Thank you for the helpful post. This beyond a shadow of a doubt ties together a slew of loose ends. For instance, we now know that a department head has advised her underlings to be judicious in their email correspondence. She has been there how long? The department head of my employment sent a similar note around a couple years back. Ms Lerner just getting to it now ??? and we now know for certain that Darrell Issa is the head of the House Oversight Committee - which emphatically explains that this "scandal" will be brought to it's proper justice. Tout suite

"Thanks to House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and other GOP leaders who refuse to shrug and quit, the Democrats’ denials, excuses and alibis are getting harder to make. After all, in Washington being guilty is still a bothersome disadvantage."

Only question left hanging from this insightful edition is , guilty of what?
 
Nothing, she ain't done no nothing wrong 57. How could she? You guys support her and we all know your team never, ever does anything fishy, much less wrong. Oh no. It's all on the rascally, wicked, other team.

;-)

I sense snarkiness coming on. Think a little hiatus may be in store.
 
I thought it was a clever thread title.

Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it. The blind defense by some on the left is incredibly annoying, but I'm not sure its really having that much of an effect. The IRS didn't really have many friends to begin with.
 
BedellBrave said:
Nothing, she ain't done no nothing wrong 57. How could she? You guys support her and we all know your team never, ever does anything fishy, much less wrong. Oh no. It's all on the rascally, wicked, other team.

;-)

I sense snarkiness coming on. Think a little hiatus may be in store.
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Again, guilty of what?
Another case of a solution in quest of a problem

Why go away now? You seem to disappear anytime someone has the gall to call you to task for some nonsense by using the excuse that people are mean to you .
for instance you still haven't given a serious answer to that code word you used, this time.

To answer another point you made somewhere on this board, I told you years ago if we face to face knew on another we'd probably be fast friends. Because, our day to day lives and that of our families is not all that different. Day to day lives. In my world that, is the measure of a man.

That, and the brand of whiskey and beer chaser :)
 
Haven;t defended anyone !!

Simply, if there was a crime show it --- for 2 years now Issa has not proven a thing.
A gigantic fishing expedition. Have you seen 50 Pounds explanation? Months ago !!
Sheeez
 
Maybe we will see. Two federal judges have ordered the IRS to present information about the lost emails by July 18. Also, I suppose there will now be further information to be gathered from that internal messaging system, since that cat has been let out of the bag. Lerner should have been forthcoming about that from the git-go.
 
57Brave said:
Haven;t defended anyone !!

Simply, if there was a crime show it --- for 2 years now Issa has not proven a thing.
A gigantic fishing expedition. Have you seen 50 Pounds explanation? Months ago !!
Sheeez
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LOL "prove it." Kinda tough when all evidence was magically destroyed and nobody's talking
 
BedellBrave said:
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Substitute Whitewater for IRS and what you get is a form letter.
Substitute Lerner with Rose Law Firm

what was the insinuated crime?
Again, go back to 50Pound's explanation of 501(c) 's

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I would think after The Whitewater fiasco people would understand there is no there there when the only thing keeping a story alive is the "Conservative Media"
 
"...The House Oversight Committee went on to release more of Lerner’s emails to the press. These communications indicated that Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings’s office had coordinated with the IRS and received details of a pending tax-exempt application by the voter-integrity organization True the Vote. Cummings was the ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee and had been notable over the course of the investigation for the raging contempt with which he treated it. The coordination between his office and the IRS, Chairman Issa asserted, cast doubt on Cummings’s “motivations for trying to bring this investigation to a premature end.”

Further communications records, uncovered by Freedom of Information Act requests, indicated that Lerner had looked into referring conservative groups that submitted inaccurate applications for criminal prosecution—at the request of Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.

In one email, Lerner joked to colleagues about seeking an open role at the political wing of Obama’s eternally active campaign apparatus, Organizing for Action. This implicit admission of political allegiance would have appalled the press corps, had the political affiliations in question been reversed. But the media was firmly settled into the collective impression that the IRS targeting scandal was no scandal at all. The emails landed with a thud.

The new rules governing how 501(c)(4) organizations can operate are indeed complex. Many of these groups do regularly skirt the rules dictating just how much of their operations should be directed toward public policy rather than political action. But every piece of evidence suggests that conservative groups—many of them yet to receive their tax-exempt status—were subjected to an unequal level of scrutiny compared with their liberal counterparts. Indeed, that was what Lerner had acknowledged on the very first day of the scandal, and what the IRS’s own inspector general had found...."
 
BedellBrave said:
"...The House Oversight Committee went on to release more of Lerner’s emails to the press. These communications indicated that Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings’s office had coordinated with the IRS and received details of a pending tax-exempt application by the voter-integrity organization True the Vote. Cummings was the ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee and had been notable over the course of the investigation for the raging contempt with which he treated it. The coordination between his office and the IRS, Chairman Issa asserted, cast doubt on Cummings’s “motivations for trying to bring this investigation to a premature end.”

Further communications records, uncovered by Freedom of Information Act requests, indicated that Lerner had looked into referring conservative groups that submitted inaccurate applications for criminal prosecution—at the request of Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.

In one email, Lerner joked to colleagues about seeking an open role at the political wing of Obama’s eternally active campaign apparatus, Organizing for Action. This implicit admission of political allegiance would have appalled the press corps, had the political affiliations in question been reversed. But the media was firmly settled into the collective impression that the IRS targeting scandal was no scandal at all. The emails landed with a thud.

The new rules governing how 501(c)(4) organizations can operate are indeed complex. Many of these groups do regularly skirt the rules dictating just how much of their operations should be directed toward public policy rather than political action. But every piece of evidence suggests that conservative groups—many of them yet to receive their tax-exempt status—were subjected to an unequal level of scrutiny compared with their liberal counterparts. Indeed, that was what Lerner had acknowledged on the very first day of the scandal, and what the IRS’s own inspector general had found...."
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...and ?

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"In one email, Lerner joked to colleagues about seeking an open role at the political wing of Obama’s eternally active campaign apparatus, Organizing for Action. This implicit admission of political allegiance would have appalled the press corps, had the political affiliations in question been reversed. But the media was firmly settled into the collective impression that the IRS targeting scandal was no scandal at all. The emails landed with a thud."

would the key word in the above account be -----"joked" ?
still not at all sure what this is about

another note, House leadership has taken this nvestigation from the House Oversight Committee for obvious reasons
 
"Further communications records, uncovered by Freedom of Information Act requests, indicated that Lerner had looked into referring conservative groups that submitted inaccurate applications for criminal prosecution—at the request of Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse."

the above phrase "looked into..."

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"These communications indicated that Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings’s office had coordinated with the IRS and received details of a pending tax-exempt application by the voter-integrity organization True the Vote"

Isn't that what Congressmen do? Even if the the communications did no more than "indicate(d)"

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This (in bold) is proven to be patently untrue.

"The new rules governing how 501(c)(4) organizations can operate are indeed complex. Many of these groups do regularly skirt the rules dictating just how much of their operations should be directed toward public policy rather than political action. But every piece of evidence suggests that conservative groups—many of them yet to receive their tax-exempt status—were subjected to an unequal level of scrutiny compared with their liberal counterparts. Indeed, that was what Lerner had acknowledged on the very first day of the scandal, and what the IRS’s own inspector general had found...."

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Make a point to read that which disagrees with your preconceived notions. That sir is how you learn
 
I am willing to call a spade a spade here . . . if and when I see a spade.

Mentioning this in the same breath with Iran-Contra, or Watergate—which originated in the White House, for goodness' sake—is just foolish.
 
57Brave said:
"Further communications records, uncovered by Freedom of Information Act requests, indicated that Lerner had looked into referring conservative groups that submitted inaccurate applications for criminal prosecution—at the request of Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse."

the above phrase "looked into..."

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"These communications indicated that Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings’s office had coordinated with the IRS and received details of a pending tax-exempt application by the voter-integrity organization True the Vote"

Isn't that what Congressmen do? Even if the the communications did no more than "indicate(d)"

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This (in bold) is proven to be patently untrue.

"The new rules governing how 501(c)(4) organizations can operate are indeed complex. Many of these groups do regularly skirt the rules dictating just how much of their operations should be directed toward public policy rather than political action. But every piece of evidence suggests that conservative groups—many of them yet to receive their tax-exempt status—were subjected to an unequal level of scrutiny compared with their liberal counterparts. Indeed, that was what Lerner had acknowledged on the very first day of the scandal, and what the IRS’s own inspector general had found...."

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Make a point to read that which disagrees with your preconceived notions. That sir is how you learn
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I'm giving you something to read that disagrees with your preconceived notions.

Second, is it "patently untrue" or does it merely disagree with your team's talking point?

We'll see what happens on the 18th.
 
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