Another senseless reason why guns should be outlawed

Oklahomahawk said:
I'm pro-gun, along with the responsibilities that should go with such an important thing, but to me Zimmerman is a totally different case. That ahole shouldn't have been allowed to carry a cheese grater, let along a firearm. I live in a country in OK I like to call "the wild wild west". Pretty much everybody around here is packing, or at least has one or two guns in the home. I've been in discussions all the way to arguments with anti-gun folks and while they do go in different directions at times, if you're in one with a staunch anti-gun fanatic (Julio certainly doesn't seem to be one, I'm just saying) there is absolutely no way in heck that you can ever convince one of them that you cannot get all the guns off the streets, it simply can't be done. Even Bill Maher, who doesn't really like guns very much, said on his show that until they do get all the guns out of the hands of bad guys (ie never) he's gonna have a gun in his home. To me that's the only way that makes sense. I'm even for carry laws as long as you have to earn the right through training, etc., which I'm sure you have done.

I also wonder about the logic in the arguments anti-gun people use sometimes as far as what effect guns have on lessening crime, etc., but does anyone ever look at the opposite effect? What effect does NOT having them have on crime, etc.,?
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I can't believe I'd agree with anything Bill Maher has said. That is how I feel about the gun issue. Until I see a concerted effort to get them off the streets, I won't be persuaded to give any of mine up. (All but two are for hunting)

Basically I have a duty to protect my loved ones. I had pistols for hunting and sport, but when I got married and had children I felt this overwhelming sense to make sure I had the tools to protect my family should the need arise. The feeling of not doing everything I could to protect those people and if they were to be injured by my negligence was just too much to bear. Thats how I ended up with a gun in my nightstand. And no I don't believe in Zombies or the apocolypse.
 
I've had a gun in my nightstand since I was about 12 years old. I've never understood the point of view of not having something other than a baseball bat if something were to happen.
 
gilesfan said:
I've had a gun in my nightstand since I was about 12 years old. I've never understood the point of view of not having something other than a baseball bat if something were to happen.
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Oh me too. It was just my hunting revolver. I have since replaced it with something that packs more whallop.
 
Krgrecw said:
How long does it take to legally get a gun in NY? I heard months

Down here in SC, you're in and out within five minutes
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It could stretch for months.

Step one for me is to get finger printed at the county sheriff's office. Reasonable enough until you learn that the service is only provided on Friday afternoons from noon-2PM. So if you have a big boy job working normal business hours, you're forced to take a day off of work to complete this step. (Somehow the ACLU doesn't seem to mind this impediment to exercising your 2nd Amendment rights). I thought we only wanted responsible adults getting access to guns, but apparently in NY they want to make it as inconvenient as possible.

I happened to have a Friday afternoon off, so I first went to the county gun permit office to pay for an application. At the time I thought this was the first step, but I was told that I first had to get the prints. So I drove over to the sheriff's office across town, only to be told that first I needed to pay for the application and bring the receipt. So I went back to the permit office, got a different super efficient govt worker, and was awarded the privilege of paying $20-30 for the application. Took the application BACK to the sheriff's office with about half an hour to spare before the two hour fingerprint window was closed, and the guy at the desk laughed at me for thinking I could just walk in and get the prints done. The demand was so high that an appointment had to be made and there was a 6-7 week wait before the next appt.

I left with my application which has since expired because apparently the receipt is only valid for a certain period of time otherwise you have to pay for a new application.

And that's a glimpse into my experience of trying to get a gun in NY. And why I chuckle every time 57 tells me it's easier to get a gun than adopt a dog.

For now I've put it on the back burner until I decide I want to burn time off of work to try to navigate through this nonsense.
 
acesfull86 said:
It could stretch for months.

Step one for me is to get finger printed at the county sheriff's office. Reasonable enough until you learn that the service is only provided on Friday afternoons from noon-2PM. So if you have a big boy job working normal business hours, you're forced to take a day off of work to complete this step. (Somehow the ACLU doesn't seem to mind this impediment to exercising your 2nd Amendment rights). I thought we only wanted responsible adults getting access to guns, but apparently in NY they want to make it as inconvenient as possible.

I happened to have a Friday afternoon off, so I first went to the county gun permit office to pay for an application. At the time I thought this was the first step, but I was told that I first had to get the prints. So I drove over to the sheriff's office across town, only to be told that first I needed to pay for the application and bring the receipt. So I went back to the permit office, got a different super efficient govt worker, and was awarded the privilege of paying $20-30 for the application. Took the application BACK to the sheriff's office with about half an hour to spare before the two hour fingerprint window was closed, and the guy at the desk laughed at me for thinking I could just walk in and get the prints done. The demand was so high that an appointment had to be made and there was a 6-7 week wait before the next appt.

I left with my application which has since expired because apparently the receipt is only valid for a certain period of time otherwise you have to pay for a new application.

And that's a glimpse into my experience of trying to get a gun in NY. And why I chuckle every time 57 tells me it's easier to get a gun than adopt a dog.

For now I've put it on the back burner until I decide I want to burn time off of work to try to navigate through this nonsense.
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Clearly, it is an attempt to dissuade people from obtaining.
 
“One failed attempt at a shoe bomb and we all have to take off our shoes at the airport. Thirty one (and counting) school shootings since Columbine and no change in the regulation of guns.”
— John Oliver (via azspot)
 
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