Boogaloo
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cajunrevenge
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Wut? Active duty?
nsacpi
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yeah...surprised this is not getting much attention
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
I guess just telling them to "back off...." probably wouldn't get the job done, huh?
nsacpi
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striker42
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Lots of lazy writing about the Boogaloos. There's a reflex to call them far-right which isn't totally accurate. People forget there's more to the political spectrum than left and right. There's also, for lack of better terms, up and down. On the left and right you have liberal and conservative. On the extreme of up and down you have authoritarian and anarchy.
For example, Stalin and Hitler were on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of left and right. However, they were both authoritarian leaders and fell closely on that scale.
Boogaloos (and it's hard to make generalizations about such a group) appear to be more about the up and down scale. They seem more anti-government. You have the anti-government, white supremacist militia types but you also have anarchists that hate fascism as part of it. It's a very strange group.
For example, Stalin and Hitler were on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of left and right. However, they were both authoritarian leaders and fell closely on that scale.
Boogaloos (and it's hard to make generalizations about such a group) appear to be more about the up and down scale. They seem more anti-government. You have the anti-government, white supremacist militia types but you also have anarchists that hate fascism as part of it. It's a very strange group.
nsacpi
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The complaint filed in Nevada last month described “boogaloo” as “a term used by extremists to signify coming civil war and/or fall of civilization.” According to Cynthia Miller-Idris, an expert on domestic extremist groups at American University, members of the boogaloo movement “are all united by the idea that they are fighting against government ‘tyranny’ and want to launch a violent insurrection against the government and bring about a second civil war.”
it is a little unclear to me what they want to come out of this second civil war...presumably less "tyranny"
it is a little unclear to me what they want to come out of this second civil war...presumably less "tyranny"
nsacpi
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In Omak, Wash., a city of fewer than 5,000 located in the foothills of the Okanogan Highlands, plans for a peaceful demonstration began in a private chat on Facebook Messenger.
But public threats poured in when Sinai Espinoza, a 19-year-old student at a local community college, joined other young women in promoting their Peaceful March for George Floyd. The violent messages on social media included a vow that “When the looting starts, the shooting starts,” echoing President Trump’s rhetoric on Twitter. Another characterized the upcoming gathering as “free target practice.”
When the march unfolded earlier this month, bringing more than 400 people to a park opposite the public library, an armed militia stood guard — at ground level but also atop nearby roofs, as if ready to act as snipers.
“Honestly, it was terrifying,” Espinoza said. “They claimed they were there to protect the city from outsiders, but it felt more like preparation to kill.”
The demonstrations against racial injustice and police brutality that have convulsed major metropolitan areas, from Minneapolis to Miami, have also made their way into small-town America, redrawing the geography of the Black Lives Matter movement. But the activists spearheading unlikely assemblies in rural and conservative corners of the country have faced fierce online backlash and armed intimidation, which in some places is unfolding with the apparent support of local law enforcement.
The dangers that armed militias bring with them were laid bare this week in Albuquerque, where a 31-year-old was arrested in connection with a shooting that injured a protester seeking the removal of a statue of a Spanish conquistador. The eruption of gunfire followed a standoff between protesters and members of a group that calls itself the New Mexico Civil Guard — one of a number of militia and paramilitary units reacting to recent protests that have occasionally descended into rioting and looting.
The Facebook page for the group, the New Mexico Civil Guard, was briefly taken down following the shooting, though not by Facebook, according to a company spokesman, Andy Stone. A post earlier this month called for ordinary citizens to take up arms to protect their communities in light of efforts aimed at “defunding or wholly disbanding … police departments.” Another post said the intention was to “keep the protesters safe.” Days later, however, the group claimed the demonstrations were no longer about “Floyd’s death,” but instead a “global move for anarchy.”
The show of force has been most pronounced in small towns, where the protests already are proceeding on uncertain ground. Three and a half hours south of Albuquerque, in Deming, N.M., 16-year-old Izabella Collings was recently moved to create a Black Lives Matter page for her state. When she used it to share news about an upcoming protest, she said, she received threats telling her she would get shot if she didn’t comport herself properly.
Undeterred, she turned off comments on her post and went ahead with the demonstration, which brought two men toting firearms to the town’s courthouse park.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...c4655e-b0a1-11ea-8f56-63f38c990077_story.html
But public threats poured in when Sinai Espinoza, a 19-year-old student at a local community college, joined other young women in promoting their Peaceful March for George Floyd. The violent messages on social media included a vow that “When the looting starts, the shooting starts,” echoing President Trump’s rhetoric on Twitter. Another characterized the upcoming gathering as “free target practice.”
When the march unfolded earlier this month, bringing more than 400 people to a park opposite the public library, an armed militia stood guard — at ground level but also atop nearby roofs, as if ready to act as snipers.
“Honestly, it was terrifying,” Espinoza said. “They claimed they were there to protect the city from outsiders, but it felt more like preparation to kill.”
The demonstrations against racial injustice and police brutality that have convulsed major metropolitan areas, from Minneapolis to Miami, have also made their way into small-town America, redrawing the geography of the Black Lives Matter movement. But the activists spearheading unlikely assemblies in rural and conservative corners of the country have faced fierce online backlash and armed intimidation, which in some places is unfolding with the apparent support of local law enforcement.
The dangers that armed militias bring with them were laid bare this week in Albuquerque, where a 31-year-old was arrested in connection with a shooting that injured a protester seeking the removal of a statue of a Spanish conquistador. The eruption of gunfire followed a standoff between protesters and members of a group that calls itself the New Mexico Civil Guard — one of a number of militia and paramilitary units reacting to recent protests that have occasionally descended into rioting and looting.
The Facebook page for the group, the New Mexico Civil Guard, was briefly taken down following the shooting, though not by Facebook, according to a company spokesman, Andy Stone. A post earlier this month called for ordinary citizens to take up arms to protect their communities in light of efforts aimed at “defunding or wholly disbanding … police departments.” Another post said the intention was to “keep the protesters safe.” Days later, however, the group claimed the demonstrations were no longer about “Floyd’s death,” but instead a “global move for anarchy.”
The show of force has been most pronounced in small towns, where the protests already are proceeding on uncertain ground. Three and a half hours south of Albuquerque, in Deming, N.M., 16-year-old Izabella Collings was recently moved to create a Black Lives Matter page for her state. When she used it to share news about an upcoming protest, she said, she received threats telling her she would get shot if she didn’t comport herself properly.
Undeterred, she turned off comments on her post and went ahead with the demonstration, which brought two men toting firearms to the town’s courthouse park.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...c4655e-b0a1-11ea-8f56-63f38c990077_story.html
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I hope the brave young people organizing the protests in these small towns are able to withstand the intimidation tactics that are being visited upon them by these armed groups.
I wonder if the free speech warriors around here will voice their rejection of these efforts to intimidate and stifle free speech.
I wonder if the free speech warriors around here will voice their rejection of these efforts to intimidate and stifle free speech.
sturg33
I
The 1st amendment allows for peaceful protesting.
It doesnt allow for violent protesting.
I support peaceful protesting and I also support letting all ideas being heard... even the ugly ones
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
what about threatening peaceful protesters and showing up with guns in an effort to intimidate them...that seems deplorable to me to coin a phrase
nsacpi
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I'll take that as a defense of threatening peaceful protestors and trying to intimidate them by showing up with guns
so much for your valuation of free speech...I couldn't help but notice that you didn't speak up either when military helicopters and tear gas were used to disperse a peaceful crowd at Lafayette square.
sturg33
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I dont know how many times I have to say I support peaceful protests from all sides to get it through your head.
Maybe I need to say it in German