MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
According to DOB, Fredi and Wren both got contract extensions. Might justify a separate thread.
Braves extend Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez. WOOOOOOO!!!
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ChapelHillMatt
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
But I thought Fredi was going to get fired after this year? Afterall he's done a horrible job, right???
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
Fredi has done an amazing job this offseason.
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sturg33
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I really hope you're joking about Fred
Tapate50
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Been attempting to post a new thread and it just locks up.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Fredi extension is strictly symbolic. Coaches aren't like players, they get paid well, but firing them isn't the same as cutting a player. Fredi benig under contract means nothing. That said, this organization is about stability, and I don't think they can Fredi unless he epically collapses again.
If we don't win a round this year I don't see how he is back unless the team was ravaged by injuries.
NYCBrave
Well-known member
I really don't think that's fair. When was the last time the Braves won a round? Cox wasn't exactly winning in the playoffs every year either.
Fred is cox-lite. He'll be here until Wren retires like JS.
Baseball is certainly all about the players. I won't deny that. But when your resume consists of leaving the best closer in baseball on the bench in a playoff game that could have resulted in a game 5 in your homebuilding then you deserve a lot of criticism.
ChapelHillMatt
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
Should have fired him too I guess.
ChapelHillMatt
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
Yep he's going nowhere, it's amazing people think otherwise. This organization strives on stability, they don't fire managers for postseason failures. Only way he gets fired is if they collapse in the regular season and that won't be happening.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
If we win the division he will get a pass. I agree that too long is risky since we have a 2 year window for our best shot. But that's how the Braves operate.
Didn't Bobby have a few collapses there in 2007 and 2009 I wanna say?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
And everyone wanted him out after then and he likely retired because of the pressure put on him at the end of 09. Also in 07 we weren't that good. We didn't collapse, we just were lucky the Phillies and Mets were so bad.
NYCBrave
Well-known member
Although people have reason to be upset about that, I can think of a lot of reasons we lost that series.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
That's the thing with Fredi in that series. Managers, to me, generally have limited impact on games. Sure, they makes moves, but it's still largely your star players that are going to carry you. However, I feel Fredi had a major impact on the outcome of that series. It wasn't all his fault, and I think our offense is the primary reason we lost. But, Fredi had a bigger impact than I would have liked, and that impact was negative.
I doubt he gets fired, because we will have a good season and this team has a lot of upside. I don't think he will always make decisions that directly cost us games like in Game 4. The opportunity isn't always there.
I doubt he gets fired, because we will have a good season and this team has a lot of upside. I don't think he will always make decisions that directly cost us games like in Game 4. The opportunity isn't always there.