Brian Williams is a Liar

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WASHINGTON — NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams admitted Wednesday he was not aboard a helicopter hit and forced down by RPG fire during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a false claim that has been repeated by the network for years.

Williams repeated the claim Friday during NBC’s coverage of a public tribute at a New York Rangers hockey game for a retired soldier that had provided ground security for the grounded helicopters, a game to which Williams accompanied him. In an interview with Stars and Stripes, he said he had misremembered the events and was sorry.

The admission came after crew members on the 159th Aviation Regiment’s Chinook that was hit by two rockets and small arms fire told Stars and Stripes that the NBC anchor was nowhere near that aircraft or two other Chinooks flying in the formation that took fire. Williams arrived in the area about an hour later on another helicopter after the other three had made an emergency landing, the crew members said.

“I would not have chosen to make this mistake,” Williams said. “I don’t know what screwed up in my mind that caused me to conflate one aircraft with another.”

Williams told his Nightly News audience that the erroneous claim was part of a "bungled attempt" to thank soldiers who helped protect him in Iraq in 2003. “I made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago,” Williams said. “I want to apologize.”

Late Wednesday, Williams’ Twitter account, with 212,000 followers, appeared to have been wiped clean.

Williams made the claim about the incident while presenting NBC coverage of the tribute to the retired command sergeant major at the Rangers game Friday. Fans gave the soldier a standing ovation.

“The story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG,” Williams said on the broadcast. “Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armor mechanized platoon from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry.”

Williams and his camera crew were actually aboard a Chinook in a formation that was about an hour behind the three helicopters that came under fire, according to crew member interviews.

That Chinook took no fire and landed later beside the damaged helicopter due to an impending sandstorm from the Iraqi desert, according to Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Miller, who was the flight engineer on the aircraft that carried the journalists.

“No, we never came under direct enemy fire to the aircraft,” he said Wednesday.

The helicopters, along with the NBC crew, remained on the ground at a forward operating base west of Baghdad for two or three days, where they were surrounded by an Army unit with Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams M-1 tanks.

Miller said he never saw any direct fire on the position from Iraqi forces.


http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-...ts-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792

 
Waaaaaaaah? People lie about wars as a means to advance their career? Never heard of that happening before. Never.
 
if only people would have got this upset when W lied about going to war so Brian Williams could go to said war to make up a lie about it

america though
 
Hit piece or not, my dig is that no one is perfect. People tend to remember too kindly those who came before them. It's harder to speak ill of the dead. And probably a few other quips I could say there.

Not saying that Cronkite is scum, blah blah blha, just pointing out that no one is perfect. Though I guess the advantage to looking up to Cronkite is he's not the same age as you, so when you realize he's just like everyone else, he's already dead. (paraphrasing there)
 
if only people would have got this upset when W lied about going to war so Brian Williams could go to said war to make up a lie about it

america though

1) Is the 'W lied' argument still a thing in 2015? The New York Times basically validated the WMD angle this year. Although I'm sure there are hundreds of other conspiratorial theories that still have some kick.

2) I can only speak for myself, but I'm more disappointed than 'upset' about Williams. The NBC Nightly News is a decent newscast; not especially hard-hitting, but very well produced and informative. A nice daily dose of Americana. Williams is a very talented anchor. However, this type of fib -- one that has been knowingly and repeatedly perpetuated over the course of a decade -- is the kind that can thoroughly destroy reputations. It's pretty brazen if you think about it. Williams has put the credibility of his entire production crew and editorial staff in jeopardy. I'm sure fact-checkers across the country are combing over the collective work of the news division as we speak.

It all just seems like another nail in the coffin for mainstream news media.
 
no the time didn't and yes, it should still be a thing when talking about Iraq and everything that happens there

there are people melting their tits off all over social media about Brian williams. I agree with ya though. a fan of his, he seems pretty funny from the interviews i have seen of his
 
Hit piece or not, my dig is that no one is perfect. People tend to remember too kindly those who came before them. It's harder to speak ill of the dead. And probably a few other quips I could say there.

Not saying that Cronkite is scum, blah blah blha, just pointing out that no one is perfect. Though I guess the advantage to looking up to Cronkite is he's not the same age as you, so when you realize he's just like everyone else, he's already dead. (paraphrasing there)

I understand what you are getting at, but I don't see those things about Cronkite as imperfections -- especially in the context of his job and his legacy as a reporter.
 
WASHINGTON — NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams admitted Wednesday he was not aboard a helicopter hit and forced down by RPG fire during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a false claim that has been repeated by the network for years.

Williams repeated the claim Friday during NBC’s coverage of a public tribute at a New York Rangers hockey game for a retired soldier that had provided ground security for the grounded helicopters, a game to which Williams accompanied him. In an interview with Stars and Stripes, he said he had misremembered the events and was sorry.

The admission came after crew members on the 159th Aviation Regiment’s Chinook that was hit by two rockets and small arms fire told Stars and Stripes that the NBC anchor was nowhere near that aircraft or two other Chinooks flying in the formation that took fire. Williams arrived in the area about an hour later on another helicopter after the other three had made an emergency landing, the crew members said.

“I would not have chosen to make this mistake,” Williams said. “I don’t know what screwed up in my mind that caused me to conflate one aircraft with another.”

Williams told his Nightly News audience that the erroneous claim was part of a "bungled attempt" to thank soldiers who helped protect him in Iraq in 2003. “I made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago,” Williams said. “I want to apologize.”

Late Wednesday, Williams’ Twitter account, with 212,000 followers, appeared to have been wiped clean.

Williams made the claim about the incident while presenting NBC coverage of the tribute to the retired command sergeant major at the Rangers game Friday. Fans gave the soldier a standing ovation.

“The story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG,” Williams said on the broadcast. “Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armor mechanized platoon from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry.”

Williams and his camera crew were actually aboard a Chinook in a formation that was about an hour behind the three helicopters that came under fire, according to crew member interviews.

That Chinook took no fire and landed later beside the damaged helicopter due to an impending sandstorm from the Iraqi desert, according to Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Miller, who was the flight engineer on the aircraft that carried the journalists.

“No, we never came under direct enemy fire to the aircraft,” he said Wednesday.

The helicopters, along with the NBC crew, remained on the ground at a forward operating base west of Baghdad for two or three days, where they were surrounded by an Army unit with Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams M-1 tanks.

Miller said he never saw any direct fire on the position from Iraqi forces.


http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-...ts-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792


Not even the most homerific of liberals could possibly defend. Surely that is impossible. Let me just check out the next few replies to be sure...
 
there are people melting their tits off all over social media about Brian williams. I agree with ya though. a fan of his, he seems pretty funny from the interviews i have seen of his

I was watching the interview he did with Letterman in 2013 earlier, he was really charismatic and well-spoken. And funny.

I also enjoyed seeing his hot daughter get a rimjob on HBO, too. Yes, I know it wasn't real -- but still.

 
Does anyone actually consider old chemical weapons WMDs? We were told they had Uranium cake and blah blah blah. I mean I get chemical weapons fit the bill, but as I recall they were not missilzed or whatever the proper word is. If they had nukes or biological I'd be concerned,
 

guessing you didn't read it then or now:

From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein’s rule.

The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West.
 
I was watching the interview he did with Letterman in 2013 earlier, he was really charismatic and well-spoken. And funny.

I also enjoyed seeing his hot daughter get a rimjob on HBO, too. Yes, I know it wasn't real -- but still.


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yeah, she's hot
 
Does anyone actually consider old chemical weapons WMDs? We were told they had Uranium cake and blah blah blah. I mean I get chemical weapons fit the bill, but as I recall they were not missilzed or whatever the proper word is. If they had nukes or biological I'd be concerned,

I don't dispute that a lot of the intelligence was poor/crooked/fabricated (full disclosure: I'm a bit of a truther), but realistically I believe the argument that Hussein had 'WMD' (however you want to treat that term) is solid enough. It's clear the administration wanted to go in regardless, and was grasping at straws to create a compelling enough reason to assemble the coalition force, but it's more interesting for me to consider the reasons why Bush wanted into Iraq so bad to begin with.
 
guessing you didn't read it then or now:

Yeah, yeah, but that technically doesn't make Bush's comments lies. He said Saddam had chemical/biological weapons and the means to produce more (which was true) and that he wanted to build a nuclear arsenal (which was also true, although he had neither the money or the scientific expertise to lift the program off the ground).
 
For some reason, I just assumed this thread was going to be about his daughter having her salad tossed during an episode of Girls.

Edit: Now I see that it at least did come up eventually in the thread. Carry on.
 
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