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Shaping up to be a really interesting decision on him. One year with a team option for him could conceivably be the best option at this point. If you don't want to invest in Moustakas or Frazier, he doesn't really get in anybody's way if you bring him back - like Markakis when Acuna's ready, you just DFA him in hopes someone will take some of the money if/when Rio and or Riley forces the issue. He'd certainly be the least expensive and shortest-term option over there, and we probably wouldn't face much competition for his services (especially if you started talking to his reps now).

In the event you didn't cut the vets loose or trade anyone this winter, an Adams, Phillips, Markakis set of bench bats wouldn't be so bad during the second half next year when the youth movement goes into high gear.
 
He's repeatedly told reporters to stop asking questions about 3B move. So sounds like he's really not thrilled about doing this long term.
 
sturg33 said:
Phillips is making $14M this year

He's on pace for a nearly 2 WIN season.

He won't sign for anything less than $8-$10M
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Which was the point - if you're not interested in committing to Moustakas or Frazier for 3, 4, or even 5 years, suddenly one year at $8-$10 million with a team option for Phillips is arguably more attractive than taking on Prado's contract (even if you could get him for nothing) since Martin's 2019 money is guaranteed.
 
Forever Fredi said:
He's repeatedly told reporters to stop asking questions about 3B move. So sounds like he's really not thrilled about doing this long term.
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This, plus what is real upside to bringing back an aging second basemen with no long term future for the team to play 3B for a season?

If Brandon Phillips weren't currently on the Braves and performing the role currently would anyone want to go out and sign him to a free agent to play 3B? I doubt it.

I think the Braves got a fine season out of Phillips at very little cost and should feel good about that. But time to move on unless he wants to sign a ridiculously team friendly team to compete for a utility role.
 
Does he think teams will beating down his door this offseason? I don't see it.

He could do well at 3B, at least he has so far.
 
nsacpi said:
I think he'll get less than 8M guaranteed.
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Which is really the only reason I think we'd have any interest in bringing him back.

If your "veteran acquisitions" this winter were Phillips at ~ $8-ish million and a Lynn or Cobb for 3/$36 million as opposed to Dickey, Garcia and Colon for $32 million last winter you'd be in a much better position to eat money to move Markakis, Dickey, and even Phillips when Acuna, the arms, and Ruiz/Riley inevitably step in late next season.
 
A bit off-the-wall, but I wonder if Coppy could interest Texas in a Sims for Profar deal while Lucas is hot at this level?

They chose not to promote him yet again when they put Gallo on the DL (although I'm sure playing him at 1B is a bit of a waste - would make more sense to promote Ronald Guzman), and he's out of options following this season so they're going to have to do something. The Willie Calhoun acquisition likely means they aren't moving him to the OF, so they're pretty much going to have to deal him at this point IMO. He'd likely put up comparable numbers to Phillips at 3B for even less money, and with 3.124 years of service-time he could conceivably be that bridge to Riley or even Maitan.

Back a Sims/Profar deal up with a Lynn signing this winter, and maybe you still take a little step forward with a bit of a bounce back from Julio and Folty without having to ask for too much too soon from Newcomb/Fried/Gohara.
 
While BP has been real good I still want to give Camargo a full year shot. He's earned more of a look.
 
thethe said:
While BP has been real good I still want to give Camargo a full year shot. He's earned more of a look.
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With his defense rebounding Phillips has played exactly like most projected. The main issues are the Braves will no longer be paying him peanuts next year if he were to return and I doubt he wants to continue to play 3B.
 
clvclv said:
A bit off-the-wall, but I wonder if Coppy could interest Texas in a Sims for Profar deal while Lucas is hot at this level?

They chose not to promote him yet again when they put Gallo on the DL (although I'm sure playing him at 1B is a bit of a waste - would make more sense to promote Ronald Guzman), and he's out of options following this season so they're going to have to do something. The Willie Calhoun acquisition likely means they aren't moving him to the OF, so they're pretty much going to have to deal him at this point IMO. He'd likely put up comparable numbers to Phillips at 3B for even less money, and with 3.124 years of service-time he could conceivably be that bridge to Riley or even Maitan.

Back a Sims/Profar deal up with a Lynn signing this winter, and maybe you still take a little step forward with a bit of a bounce back from Julio and Folty without having to ask for too much too soon from Newcomb/Fried/Gohara.
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I don't think Sims for Profar works for us. I read in several chats that writers that profar has no value.

I don't like Dat Dude either....he's going to cost money.

What would be the projected WAR of a Ruiz/Adonis straight platoon? Adonis can hit LH pitching. I still think Ruiz could hit RH pretty well. To me that is the baseline.

I think FF showed that playing him at 3B is an option. An entire offseason to work on the position and improve his fluidity of movement might be ok. You could then move Kemp to 1B. Play 2/3 of Kemp, Neck, Adams and have the other guy as a good PH option while opening up for Acuna.

I still think the Braves are going to make a monster deal in the offseason. But looking at spending 10 Million plus on a guy I'd have to know how much better that is than the Ruiz/Adonis platoon or the FF at 3B and Kemp at 1B in house options. Moose's low OBP and likely long deal really worry me now.
 
I'm not sure the braves are going to seriously consider moving freeman to 3b. It's an interesting discussion but don't think it's realistic.
 
thewupk said:
With his defense rebounding Phillips has played exactly like most projected. The main issues are the Braves will no longer be paying him peanuts next year if he were to return and I doubt he wants to continue to play 3B.
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I don't think it makes sense just play Camargo there and absorb verlanders salary.
 
thethe said:
I don't think it makes sense just play Camargo there and absorb verlanders salary.
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Verlander is as big a pipe dream as Stanton. Both have no-trade protection - surely none of you that keep tossing those names around really believe they'd waive it to come here during a rebuild.

Verlander to the Dodgers would make sense. Verlander to the Yankees would make sense. Verlander to the Cubs would make sense.

Verlander to the Braves makes no sense - to Verlander.
 
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