GDT 7/6: Bobby Cox Sunday Special
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CrimsonCowboy
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Letting go of Seitzer made little sense. It felt like making a change just to make a change. But when half your everyday lineup was out due to injury for major portions of the season like last year, of course there’s going to be lower production. I don’t know what Hyers is teaching, but he’s making Merv Rettemund look like Don Baylor.
Hudson2
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The change needs to be made at the deadline so we can see if anything positive happens in the 2nd half.
CrimsonCowboy
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Can’t disagree. The conversation with Snit has to happen after the All Star Game. He looks so disinterested in the dugout and his postgame press conferences do little to inspire. Let Eddie Perez manage after the ASG for the rest of the season and do a true managerial search after the season. Will that happen? Probably not
Hudson2
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It needs to happen but we know it probably won't. Snit has to much pull somewhere but what they can't do is give Snit one last shot next year to make it an even 50 years and have his retire tour. I'd let Perez run it the rest of the year too. I'm not a Weiss fan at all and Fredi G should have never been brought back. They keep letting the wrong guys go. The right guy to can is Brian Snitker.
WaitingFor2017
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That's honestly been one of my fears for the franchise lately. We can't afford to give Snitker and this staff one more year in this window which may or may not end around 2028.
Hudson2
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On the flip side AA knows his butt would be on the line if he did it that's why I don't see it happening. AA can spin it that injuries piled up again bc they have but bottom line is that there are a ton of holes to fill this offseason including finding a new manager.
Strike3urout
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The most surprising thing about this game is that there’s 34,000 poor souls who thought that this was a worthwhile way to spend their Sunday afternoon
The hitting can't be all Hyers fault. Olson is having a great year. Murphy has rebounded to be one of the better offensive catchers in the league again. Baldwin is doing great. Acuna was on a the heater until recently.
Riley's performance can mostly be attributed to the wrist injury. The only major discernable difference between this year and previous years is the lack of power. He has started off July on a year, so maybe he'll turn it on in the 2nd half. And I still maintain wrist argument for Albies.
Harris is the red flag for me in regards to Hyers. Something has gotta give there. We can't keep trotting out arguably the worst hitter in baseball every week.
Riley's performance can mostly be attributed to the wrist injury. The only major discernable difference between this year and previous years is the lack of power. He has started off July on a year, so maybe he'll turn it on in the 2nd half. And I still maintain wrist argument for Albies.
Harris is the red flag for me in regards to Hyers. Something has gotta give there. We can't keep trotting out arguably the worst hitter in baseball every week.
Strike3urout
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To me, the biggest problem is that there doesn’t seem to be an offensive game plan. The intention seems to be to make the lineup more patient, which is a good idea on the surface. But patience just means waiting for your pitch, recognizing it, and putting your best swing on it. These hitters, however, are now taking pitches just for the sake of taking pitches at times, letting very hittable pitches go by. At other times, they remember that the 2023 offense was built on punishing first-pitch mistakes, but forgetting that pitchers know that, too. They are still terrible at pitch recognition, but now they don’t even make hard contact when they guess right.
Hudson2
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Olson was struggling to but I'm guessing he went back to his old ways and started tuning out the noise.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I just think 2023 was a bit of an aberration for the team as a whole in that everyone top-to-bottom in the line-up was hitting bombs and most guys had either their best or near-best career OPS. One or two guys have a bit of a downturn and overall team performance drops. Acuna missing more than half of 2024 really hurt the team in a lot of ways and not just in terms of total HRs.
You see it every now and then. Twins hit 307 HRs in 2019. 8 guys with > 20 (Buxton had 10 in 87 games and two other guys had more than 10). Granted, COVID intervened, but pretty much the same team was down to 228 in 2021. Braves went from 307 in 2023 to 213 in 2024. Similar drop (which wouldn't have been as large with a full season of Acuna).
Firing Seitzer was clearly a knee-jerk reaction. If he were a terrible hitting coach, he wouldn't have found a job as quickly after being let go by the Braves. Right now, the Braves basically have half a line-up (Acuna, Olson, Riley, Murphy, and Baldwin). Profar likely steps up things a bit, but Ozuna had a .550 OPS in June after starting the year where he picked up last year. Albies and Harris have been terrible and half the people on this board could out-hit Nick Allen. No one on the bench to really jump start anything and Kelenic is the only guy in the upper minors with any kind of positive track record at the major league level.
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