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MLB leaders through games played as of Sunday April 27th...

1.) Braves' Pitchers - 57 Runs Allowed (Without Minor, Floyd, and Venters)

2.) Cardinals' Pitchers - 78 Runs Allowed (With their full staff)

God forbid the lineup starts scoring runs!!!
 
What this rotation has done without 60% of its presumed members is just mind-boggling. I feel like someone is bound to be struck by lightning or something.

PS, Julio Teheran doesn't have a putaway pitch, doesn't strike guys out, and can't possibly be considered an ace.
 
Julio3000 said:
What this rotation has done without 60% of its presumed members is just mind-boggling. I feel like someone is bound to be struck by lightning or something.

PS, Julio Teheran doesn't have a putaway pitch, doesn't strike guys out, and can't possibly be considered an ace.
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It's early, so I don't want to go around the bend, but watching Teheran develop has been something. You could see things starting to come together midway through last season, but he's golden right now. He's gotten better at getting hitters to hit it on the ground since first coming up. That has fallen off a bit for him so far this season, but everything was up in the air when he first came up.
 
The amazing thing about Teheran to me is that he appears to be several different pitchers. Sometimes he goes with the four seamer, sometimes with the sinker. At various times, he has featured each of his three off-speed pitches. The mix between fastball and off-speed stuff varies a lot from game to game, and from inning to inning. I like that he sometimes pitches backward. Some days he is a strikeout pitcher, some days a groundball pitcher, some days a fly ball pitcher. He is a chameleon. A very effective one. Wonder what the scouting report against him looks like.
 
50PoundHead said:
It's early, so I don't want to go around the bend, but watching Teheran develop has been something. You could see things starting to come together midway through last season, but he's golden right now. He's gotten better at getting hitters to hit it on the ground since first coming up. That has fallen off a bit for him so far this season, but everything was up in the air when he first came up.
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Yeah, right now he is striking fewer guys out, but getting more groundballs and fewer line drives. He's throwing the changeup more. I suspect that he hasn't been up in the zone as often as last year. I'm not comfortable making predictions about what he is going to be for the Braves, but he seems to have a lot of things that point to future success: poise, athleticism, smarts. He'll endure some rocky stretches this year, but I have really enjoyed watching him make pitch this year.
 
nsacpi said:
The amazing thing about Teheran to me is that he appears to be several different pitchers. Sometimes he goes with the four seamer, sometimes with the sinker. At various times, he has featured each of his three off-speed pitches. The mix between fastball and off-speed stuff varies a lot from game to game, and from inning to inning. I like that he sometimes pitches backward. Some days he is a strikeout pitcher, some days a groundball pitcher, some days a fly ball pitcher. He is a chameleon. A very effective one. Wonder what the scouting report against him looks like.
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^^
 
Julio3000 said:
What this rotation has done without 60% of its presumed members is just mind-boggling. I feel like someone is bound to be struck by lightning or something.

PS, Julio Teheran doesn't have a putaway pitch, doesn't strike guys out, and can't possibly be considered an ace.
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Except for those 2-3 times a game when he actually needs that 95 up and reaches back and gets it, of course (wink, wink).
 
(BTW - feel free to move where needed - I took a quick look at what I'd missed over the weekend and didn't see what felt like the right place to mention this.)
 
Julio3000 said:
Yeah, right now he is striking fewer guys out, but getting more groundballs and fewer line drives. He's throwing the changeup more. I suspect that he hasn't been up in the zone as often as last year. I'm not comfortable making predictions about what he is going to be for the Braves, but he seems to have a lot of things that point to future success: poise, athleticism, smarts. He'll endure some rocky stretches this year, but I have really enjoyed watching him make pitch this year.
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And he's extremely competitive and won't back down. Not afraid to pitch inside even if it means hitting guys.
 
I'm impressed by Julio simply because I don't care if he strikes out less guys, because now his pitch counts have been more efficient and he's pitching deeper into games.

Last year it was a roller coaster just for him to get to the 5th and 6th let alone 7-8-9th. If he pitches more innings with less effort and less k's, I'm completely fine with that.

He's already had 1 CGSO this year, and he's flirted with a few more CG's already.
 
clvclv said:
(BTW - feel free to move where needed - I took a quick look at what I'd missed over the weekend and didn't see what felt like the right place to mention this.)
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This can stay, since it's already branched off a few subconvos. But for future reference, let's beef up the endless stats thread.
 
Definitely too early to draw a direct comparison, but his numbers since the middle of last season remind me of Glavine's during the glory years...other than the fact that he can reach back and throw it by people whenever he needs to.
 
Me thinks NLDS Game 3 last year gave Teheran a wake up call/motivation. When you get into the playoffs, you can't expect to strike out every hitter, so better to find other ways to get them out. He lasted what, 2-3 innings?

That might have told him to go to the video room, see how wild your control was in certain situations, and figure out how to get outs faster.
 
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