Ladies & Gents, Your Next President of the United States

acesfull86

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"And don't let anybody, don’t let anybody tell you, that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs," Hillary Clinton.
 
Pick up the latest Harper's if you want to read a savage critique of Hillary from the left.

As most of you know, I'm pretty firmly left-of-center, but I think Ted Cruz, if not correct, is onto something as per a Jeb Bush candidacy. If you look at Jeb's and Hillary's positions over the years, Hillary is probably a little to the left-of-center on some of the "rights" positions (gay rights, abortion rights) and a few of the spending issues and Jeb is to the right-of-center position on many of those same issues and probably guns as well, but there isn't much of a difference between the two for the most part. I actually think Hillary--at least from her current yakking--is more hawkish than Jeb. Curious to see how it shakes out.
 
Nothing to do with this thread. Hilary said businesses don't create jobs.

i thought the thread was about dumb **** both sides say about economics

my bad

but i would say recently, Hillary is right with how businesses are working
 
i thought the thread was about dumb **** both sides say about economics

my bad

but i would say recently, Hillary is right with how businesses are working

If that's what you thought this thread was, I question your intelligence.

And if you agree with the statement, you're even dumber than I thought. More gubment, I suppose!
 
If that's what you thought this thread was, I question your intelligence.

And if you agree with the statement, you're even dumber than I thought. More gubment, I suppose!

nope

and nope

but the practice of many businesses recently make me believe it is closer to the truth though

but i would love to see the whole speech to see where she was coming from or going to say that line
 
Business could certainly createm ore jobs if they stopped outsourcing everything.
 
I'd love to hear some context, but damn.

"... Our most vulnerable families have the least support to do the most important job in the world, raising the next generation. That is not how it’s supposed to be in America. This is the country where if you work hard, like our dads did, and like both Martha and I did, you can make it. And each generation is supposed to have it a little bit better than the one before. Martha Coakley understands that because she has lived it. She will support earned sick time, so no mom or dad has to choose between getting the job done and taking care of a sick child or an ailing parent. She will work to make early learning and pre-kindergarten available to every child so that it’s not the children of those who are already privileged who get a good start in life and come to school prepared to learn, it’s your child and every child who deserves the same opportunities.

"Yes, and she will fight for the minimum wage, something that is long overdue. And don't let anybody tell you that raising the minimum wage will kill jobs. They always say that. I've been through this. My husband gave working families a raise in the 1990s. I voted to raise the minimum wage. And guess what? Millions of jobs were created or paid better and more families were more secure. That's what we want to see here, and that's what we want to see across the country.

"And don't let anybody, don’t let anybody tell you, that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. You know, that old theory, trickle-down economics. That has been tried. That has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly. You know, one of the things my husband says, when people say, ‘What did you bring to Washington?’ He says, ‘Well, I brought arithmetic.’ And part of it was, part of it was, he demonstrated why trickle-down should be consigned to the trash bin of history. More tax cuts for the top and for companies that ship jobs overseas while taxpayers and voters are stuck paying the freight just doesn't add up. Now, that kind of thinking might win you an award for outsourcing excellence, but Massachusetts can do better than that. Martha understands it. She knows you have to create jobs from everybody working together and taking the advantages of this great state and putting them to work.

"The other thing about Martha, is not only what she will do but what she will never do. She’ll never waffle on a woman’s right to make her own reproductive health care decision. She will never shame and judge a woman for decisions that are complex and deeply personal, decisions that belong between a woman, her family, her faith and her doctor; not with her boss or a politician. … "
 
If the argument is based on corporations outsourcing then I agree. Who knows how many tens ofm illions of jobs have been sent outside our borders int he last 20 years.
 
If anyone thinks that getting rid of corporate taxes, would make the corporations bring back jobs in droves again to this country... I have a bridge to sell you.
 
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