New Fangraphs Top 131 Prospects

Brett Cumberland on there is odd. I mean he did have a nice 2017 and he's having an OK follow up in 2018, but nothing that's particularly eye popping for his age and level. Definitely a head scratcher as I'd rate Contreras significantly higher than Cumberland at this point.
 
If there's any shot Cumberland can play a decent C, he could be really good. His offense probably won't suffice elsewhere.
 
Looking at Cumberland's numbers, his K rate went from 28.7 in 2017 to 23.4 this year. His BB rate went from 8.3 last year to 15.8 this year. He's also got a BABIP of .282 this year, and the FB% has gone from 40.9 to 46.3.

But for a guy to make that big of a jump, Kiley has to like what he has seen defensively from Cumberland. Still feels strange to me.
 
Carp said:
Brett Cumberland on there is odd. I mean he did have a nice 2017 and he's having an OK follow up in 2018, but nothing that's particularly eye popping for his age and level. Definitely a head scratcher as I'd rate Contreras significantly higher than Cumberland at this point.
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I'm guessing it's the improved K and BB rates, and potentially improved defense?
catchers develop oddly and slowly and their offense tends to suffer while developing on defense.
 
Contreras is way ahead of Cumberland imo. Has anybody ever had 14 top 100 prospects before? That’s impressive. I’d put Allard ahead of Fried too.
 
The thing confusing me is that our prospects that have overperformed were rewarded, but those that have struggled weren’t penalized.
 
mqt said:
The thing confusing me is that our prospects that have overperformed were rewarded, but those that have struggled weren’t penalized.
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do you mean solely based on where they're ranked? that doesn't always tell the whole story.
they have wright and gohara trending down, but they both still moved up on the overall rankings.
 
mqt said:
The thing confusing me is that our prospects that have overperformed were rewarded, but those that have struggled weren’t penalized.
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Maybe they don't see it as overperforming, but rather living up to potential
 
TheBravos said:
So, if you are AA....you have to have a trade list and a keep list. Anyone want to take a shot?
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My keep list would be: Acuna, Soroka, Wright, Gohara, Pache, Riley, Waters, and Stewart but if the right deal came along I’d include Gohara or Riley
 
TheBravos said:
So, if you are AA....you have to have a trade list and a keep list. Anyone want to take a shot?
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Keepers: Acuna, Soroka, Gohara, Wright, Allard, Anderson, Stewart, Wilson, Pache, Riley, Contreras, Waters, Touki, Weigel

If we get a crazy good deal we obviously should be open to moving anyone. But the guys listed above I would be reluctant to let go. Everyone else is surplus to be used to fill in gaps at the major league level.

The best of the "surplus": Fried, Wentz, Wisler, Sims, Rangel, Jackson, Demeritte, Cumberland, Salazar, Ruiz, Dustin Peterson, Muller. I think those are the guys not on the keepers list that other teams will have the most interest in. The guys on this list should be sufficient to get one of Moose/Beltre/Lowry/Solarte and a bullpen arm or two at the deadline.
 
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Keepers: Acuna, Soroka, Gohara, Wright, Allard, Anderson, Stewart, Wilson, Pache, Riley, Contreras, Waters, Touki, Weigel

If we get a crazy good deal we obviously should be open to moving anyone. But the guys listed above I would be reluctant to let go. Everyone else is surplus to be used to fill in gaps at the major league level.

The best of the "surplus": Fried, Wentz, Wisler, Sims, Rangel, Jackson, Demeritte, Cumberland, Salazar, Ruiz, Dustin Peterson. I think those are the guys not on the keepers list that other teams will have the most interest in.
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Wentz on the trade list? Touki on the keep list? hmm
 
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msstate7 said:
Trade wisler, Ruiz, and M. Cabrera

Keep everyone else
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Wisler, Sims types are a given.

I think Allard would be a guy I would be willing to move and maybe Wright IF a player was available I really loved.

I would be scared to deal Touki...man he could be special.

We don’t need to trade ANY position players...skinny enough as is. We won’t be as lucky as we were with Acuna and Ozzie.
 
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