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I wanted to learn more and asked grok: what were the emails that the Pizzagate conspiracy theorists believed used pizza for code for pedophilic activities
Pizzagate conspiracy theorists (primarily active on 4chan, Reddit's r/The_Donald, and related forums in late 2016) claimed that certain words in John Podesta's leaked emails (published by WikiLeaks) were coded language for child sexual exploitation and trafficking. They derived the "code" from online slang (e.g., "cheese pizza" or "CP" for child pornography on sites like 4chan) and applied it to everyday food references, especially those involving pizza, pasta, cheese, hot dogs, and related terms.
Common claimed mappings (per the theorists):
Here are the most frequently cited specific emails (with links to WikiLeaks where available and exact quotes):
Other scattered references (e.g., casual mentions of "hot dogs," "cheese," or pizza in party/dinner contexts) were also flagged, but the above were the core ones that launched the theory.
These interpretations were entirely unfounded—the emails are mundane discussions about food, gifts, Italian recipes, and political events. Fact-checkers, journalists (NYT, BBC, etc.), and law enforcement have repeatedly debunked Pizzagate as baseless. No evidence of any code, trafficking, or wrongdoing was ever found, and the theory led to real-world harassment and a 2016 armed incident at Comet Ping Pong. The "code" was retrofitted from 4chan slang onto ordinary emails.
Pizzagate conspiracy theorists (primarily active on 4chan, Reddit's r/The_Donald, and related forums in late 2016) claimed that certain words in John Podesta's leaked emails (published by WikiLeaks) were coded language for child sexual exploitation and trafficking. They derived the "code" from online slang (e.g., "cheese pizza" or "CP" for child pornography on sites like 4chan) and applied it to everyday food references, especially those involving pizza, pasta, cheese, hot dogs, and related terms.
Common claimed mappings (per the theorists):
- Pizza → girl (often a young girl)
- Cheese pizza → child pornography (CP)
- Pasta → boy (often a young boy)
- Hot dog → boy
- Walnut sauce → something sinister (e.g., semen or a specific act)
- Dominoes → domination/BDSM
Here are the most frequently cited specific emails (with links to WikiLeaks where available and exact quotes):
- Handkerchief with "pizza-related map" (WikiLeaks Podesta email ID 55433, Sept. 2–3, 2014)Susan Sandler to John Podesta:
Podesta replied: "It's mine, but not worth worrying about."Interpretation: The "pizza-related map" on a handkerchief was seen as a coded clue to locations or activities involving children; handkerchiefs were also tied to fetish signaling in some subcultures (black/white colors allegedly indicating specific preferences). - "Playing dominos on cheese than on pasta" (WikiLeaks Podesta email ID 50332, Dec. 2015)Herb (likely Herb Sandler) to John Podesta and Mary:
Interpretation: Switching from "pasta" (boys) to "cheese" (girls); "dominos" = domination; the square box and "long in place" strategy suggested ongoing coded exchanges of children. - "Walnut sauce" for pasta (cited in NYT dissection and many threads)Jim Steyer to Podesta:
Podesta replied explaining it’s a real Ligurian Italian dish (crushed walnuts made into a paste).Interpretation: Tied to "pasta" (boy) + "sauce" as something illicit or sexual. - Comet Ping Pong / pizza party referencesMultiple emails mention the D.C. pizzeria Comet Ping Pong (owned by James Alefantis, a Democratic donor) in the context of fundraisers, dinners, or casual "pizza" plans. One example is Alefantis inviting Podesta to an Obama fundraiser there.Interpretation: Any mention of pizza at Comet was evidence of the alleged child-sex ring operating out of the restaurant (which has no basement).
Other scattered references (e.g., casual mentions of "hot dogs," "cheese," or pizza in party/dinner contexts) were also flagged, but the above were the core ones that launched the theory.
These interpretations were entirely unfounded—the emails are mundane discussions about food, gifts, Italian recipes, and political events. Fact-checkers, journalists (NYT, BBC, etc.), and law enforcement have repeatedly debunked Pizzagate as baseless. No evidence of any code, trafficking, or wrongdoing was ever found, and the theory led to real-world harassment and a 2016 armed incident at Comet Ping Pong. The "code" was retrofitted from 4chan slang onto ordinary emails.