The Mess At Home

uh, thought this thread would be about this:

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“They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: ‘There’s our target,’” Ford said. “The boy who has talked to us said, ‘We were bored and didn’t have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.’”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/three-teens-accused-of-murder-of-baseball-player-chris-lane-identified/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461
 
57Brave said:
uh, why would you think that?
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cause it seems way more of a mess for a story to start a thread about over a story of someone that didn't kill anyone. seems like a stretch and a half to call that a "mess"
 
goldfly said:
uh, thought this thread would be about this:

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“They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: ‘There’s our target,’” Ford said. “The boy who has talked to us said, ‘We were bored and didn’t have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.’”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/three-teens-accused-of-murder-of-baseball-player-chris-lane-identified/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461
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Wow. The quotes from that article are jaw dropping. Yeah, nothing to see here folks!
 
Numerous police are at the school and SWAT was there for a time. Thurmond said the suspect is a man in his mid-20s and didn't have an obvious connection to the school.

DeKalb County School Board Chairman Melvin Johnson told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (http://bit.ly/16t14iF) there were reports of shots being fired inside the building that houses students from pre-kindergarten to fifth grade.

"We're in the process of reuniting the children with their parents," said Mekka Parish, spokeswoman for the DeKalb County Police Department. "We're just trying to calm the nerves of parents."

Jonessia White, the mother of a kindergartner at the school, told AP she talked to her son's teacher shortly after most students were evacuated. White said the teacher told her they were still inside the building shortly after 2 p.m.

"When I hear he's safely out of the building, I'll be OK," White said, adding that she learned of the shooting when a friend called to say helicopters were hovering over the school.
 
Atlanta (CNN) -- A man who opened fire at a Georgia elementary school Tuesday was armed with an AK-47 "and a number of other weapons," police said.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/us/georgia-school-gunshots/

"This thing came out for the best," said Dale Holmes, DeKalb County's assistant police chief. "Thank God no one was hurt -- not even the suspect."

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except there was a nut armed with war weapons inside an elementary school with a ax to grind.
Who? Michael Brandon Hill, 20 (white male for those that endorse racial profiling)
What? The shooter barricaded himself in the school's front office
When? Aug 20, 2013
Where? Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy
Why? His motives -- no one knows. The WHY here is why was he able to arm himself?
Why do we have another unhinged person with war weapons in one of our elementary schools?

My guess is most of you will look at this and think -" nothing to see here" unless - you have a child in an elementary school
 
Unless the weapon was his parents or someone close to him, he likely stole it or got it from someone who stole it. Criminals just find a way.
 
57Brave said:
we find hero's in the strangest places. A school bookkeeper.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/georgia-school-shooting-call_n_3794415.html
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He had an AK-47. Regardless of whether he stole it or was given permission -- why does a person in Dekalb County Ga have an AK-47 lying around?
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I have no problem with gun rights. People want to own guns, fine by me. Own a thousand if you want. But I agree with the basic sentiment of why would anyone believe that they might need an AK-47. That must be one helluva squirrel infestation.
 
50PoundHead said:
I have no problem with gun rights. People want to own guns, fine by me. Own a thousand if you want. But I agree with the basic sentiment of why would anyone believe that they might need an AK-47. That must be one helluva squirrel infestation.
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AK is a cheap made easily obtainable weapon. For years people had them because it was enjoyable to shoot weapons of that ilk. It isn't accurate enough for squirrel hunting with much efficiency.
 
Tapate50 said:
For years people had them because it was enjoyable to shoot weapons of that ilk..
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It's enjoyable to shoot heroin and opiates of that ilk, as well. I presume it too should be "a cheap made easily obtainable" commodity?
 
jpx7 said:
It's enjoyable to shoot heroin and opiates of that ilk, as well. I presume it too should be "a cheap made easily obtainable" commodity?
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Is it? Not my cup of tea, but some people like their cucumbers pickled. I would have to take your word for price or obtainability, as I really no basis to start a assumtion in that dept.

They are obtainable for anyone that wants to search it out just like everything else on the planet. The government is unfortunately in the business of protecting people from themselves all too often and if someone puts their mind to something, you simply aren't going to stop it.

I take the road of extreme caution when implementing policies that limit freedom. Everyone should.
 
I would lean towards the freedom of the elementary school children, the lady that had to talk the guy down off the ledge and the parents that didnt know for an hour or so the condition of their kids.
So, we have to weigh the freedom of someone to leave an AK-47 lying around and the safety of the general population.

When I coached ball I learned that in the course of going to a length to accomodate one player (and family) I was impacting another in a negative way.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
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In a nutshell -- it is the freedom of people to go about their daily lives vs the freedom to own a war weapon. Whereas, should one take a shot of heroin -- will the people of Dekalb County evacuate a school
 
Tapate50 said:
I take the road of extreme caution when implementing policies that limit freedom. Everyone should.
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I just want you to be consistent in the application of your "cheap made easily obtainable" standard for the legality of things.
 
57Brave said:
I would lean towards the freedom of the elementary school children, the lady that had to talk the guy down off the ledge and the parents that didnt know for an hour or so the condition of their kids.
So, we have to weigh the freedom of someone to leave an AK-47 lying around and the safety of the general population.

When I coached ball I learned that in the course of going to a length to accomodate one player (and family) I was impacting another in a negative way.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
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In a nutshell -- it is the freedom of people to go about their daily lives vs the freedom to own a war weapon. Whereas, should one take a shot of heroin -- will the people of Dekalb County evacuate a school
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That wasn't what I was referring to, but preach on since you love it so.

I am not in the business of telling people what they can and cannot do.

You are assuming someone let an AK laying around. I have not seen anything to that point yet.

I find it very interesting that no one was injured in this case, but the baby shooter (with a pistol) has nary a comment or these calls for banning. I wonder what the difference is and why you chose this case....
 
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