Thoughts on policing

[cajunrevenge]

I am working on a long form report on the issues with policing, what an actually constitutional justice system looks like, and why it wont happen. If none one is interested in discussion thats fine I just want it somewhere online so I wont lose it and can easily refer back to it. Here I am going to post a video and ask a couple questions. I know we have people here from a wide range on the political spectrum.

1. Do you believe these officers should get qualified immunity here. Not would they be granted it under current standards but do you believe they should in a case like this.


2. Do you believe the cops acted maliciously.


3. Do you believe the cops actions were trying to create a crime rather than investigate one.


4. If you are the cops at what point would do you accept that no crime has been committed and move on.


5. If defendants were allowed to hire private lawyers who the government was required to pay if the charges are false would that force them to stop making frivolous arrests/tickets due to the financial burden.


6. Do you believe these cops manipulated the situation in order to try to justify forcing him to ID.


7. Do you believe his ID was needed to determine if a crime has been committed.


8. If an officer writes a bad ticket is it unreasonable to expect them to pay it since they inconvenienced a law abiding citizen and wasted the courts time? Would this not cut out 90% of bad tickets?

 

[mqt]

I’m probably not your target audience here because I think qualified immunity should be extremely limited and carry a massive burden of proof, but the only thing I disagree with is number 8. The state should carry that burden, not the individual officer. Otherwise we run into a slippery slope where the government can create an incentive structure to take money from the officers, which carries with it the same pitfalls as our current incentive structure for taking money from the citizens in the forms of these fines.