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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We will see. He is certainly a project but less of one than when he was drafted.

    I really hope Ibaka is healthy. Duncan is basically shut down by Ibaka.

    Not sure if we can beat them without him.
    Didn't you say Ibaka would shut down Blake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Didn't you say Ibaka would shut down Blake?
    When Ibaka was guarding him he was well below his season averages. YOu can't just look at aggregate numbers because there are cross matches.
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    What were his numbers then?
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    Do you still think Jordan/Griffin > Gasol/ZBo OFFENSIVELY?

    Re: Giles.

    Blake is a top 5 player, he did as good as you could ask for all things considered.

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    Assuming Ibaka is out for the rest of the playoffs, SA in 5 most likely.

    Congrats to SA on winning the West, good luck to them against the Heat in all likelyhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Do you still think Jordan/Griffin > Gasol/ZBo OFFENSIVELY?

    Re: Giles.

    Blake is a top 5 player, he did as good as you could ask for all things considered.
    Of course you would take Blake/Jordan offensively and defensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    What were his numbers then?
    Someone on twitter posted it after game 5. Need to find it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Assuming Ibaka is out for the rest of the playoffs, SA in 5 most likely.

    Congrats to SA on winning the West, good luck to them against the Heat in all likelyhood.
    Thunder still have a good chance to beat SA withoiut Ibaka. Its a definite with Ibaka healthy. They have nobody that can come close to stopping Westbrook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Of course you would take Blake/Jordan offensively and defensively.
    Thats just silly. Jordan can't do anything but dunk offensively. He was an afterthought this series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Thunder still have a good chance to beat SA withoiut Ibaka. Its a definite with Ibaka healthy. They have nobody that can come close to stopping Westbrook.
    Westbrook stops himself plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Westbrook stops himself plenty.
    This is true.

    But thats the only person that can stop Westbrook. When he plays under control the Thunder are the best team in basketball.
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    You have to admit though..>Westbrook was phenomenal in round 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Thats just silly. Jordan can't do anything but dunk offensively. He was an afterthought this series.
    Having Blake and a donkey next to him would be better offensively than Memphis.

    Would you take Durant/Thabo offensively over Leonard/Ginobilli?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You have to admit though..>Westbrook was phenomenal in round 2.
    At times. At other he was awful...throwing up long 3s at the worst times (including the weak foul call on Paul). He was more concerned with taking Paul one on one than helping Durant and others get involved.

    Durant is on fire and begging for the ball and Westbrook would still refuse to give it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Having Blake and a donkey next to him would be better offensively than Memphis.

    Would you take Durant/Thabo offensively over Leonard/Ginobilli?
    I think you underrate how good Gasol is. Blake is clearly a top 5 player now but Jordan is such a negative that it makes it closer than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    At times. At other he was awful...throwing up long 3s at the worst times (including the weak foul call on Paul). He was more concerned with taking Paul one on one than helping Durant and others get involved.

    Durant is on fire and begging for the ball and Westbrook would still refuse to give it up.
    Westbrook helps KD tremendously. What about all the fouls that he draws? Don't you think that contributes to how many FT's KD shoots?

    They also have tremendous cohesion when Westbrook is passing the ball and every year it gets better.

    Westbrook is not this negative on the team as you guys describe. Its so confusing to me how you continue to do that. Does Westbrook do ridiculous things at times? Absolutely. But he is an incredible player that if healthy will end up a top 50 guy. You just don't see players make the plays that he makes. Its not common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think you underrate how good Gasol is. Blake is clearly a top 5 player now but Jordan is such a negative that it makes it closer than you think.
    LOL off Jordan being a negative offensively.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAC/2014.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    LOL off Jordan being a negative offensively.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAC/2014.html
    Do you see how often he is helped off? You don't have to guard him 5 feet and out. That matters.
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    This makes no sense....why the **** does it matter how Jordan and Dwight score? They are athletic freaks....if you can't stop DJ from dunking, you know what? That **** still counts the same as a 15 foot jumper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    This makes no sense....why the **** does it matter how Jordan and Dwight score? They are athletic freaks....if you can't stop DJ from dunking, you know what? That **** still counts the same as a 15 foot jumper.
    Its eaiser to defense that than defense someone like Gasol/Randolph. Jordan was well below his season averages.
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