REAL FOOTBALL Thread

[gilesfan]

Not sure if you are a NE fan or not (probably); you can't be dumb or nieve enough to ignore that Bellichek cheats and always has.


·2006: Patriots security staff audio interferes with the Jaguars’ coach-to-QB communication system at “crucial moments” during a playoff game. The Lions and the Bengals also reported their coaches’ headsets stopped working during games at New England.

·2007: The Patriots are investigated for using unapproved communication frequencies to interfere with the New York Jets’ headset system.

·2008: Karlos Dansby accuses the Patriots of tampering with the Cardinals’ headset system.

·2011: Jack Del Rio has his Jaguars team practice without headset communications, as “that tends to happen in New England.”
n, coming off the heels of all of this other stuff


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...l-play-sheets/

Several former Patriots coaches and employees alleged that the team would send “low-level” employees into opposing locker rooms during pre-game warm-ups to “steal play sheets” from teams which scripted their offenses.

The report also says the team would send employees to “rummage through the visiting team hotel for playbooks or scouting reports.”

http://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-r...wgD3HxkLJDKjPg

You should read the story immediately, but the thrust is this—citing interviews with 90 sources in and around football as well as primary documents, ESPN reports that Bill Belichick and the Patriots videotaped opposing teams’ signals from 40 different games from 2000 through 2007.

[NinersSBChamps]

I say this every season, but it still holds true year after year. The NFC east is garbage football and I hate how much national pub the games get.

[yeezus]

I say this every season, but it still holds true year after year. The NFC east is garbage football and I hate how much national pub the games get.

Well let's see...they have the Cowboys, the New York market, the Philly market, and I guess DC. It's not rocket surgery. Huge markets get huge coverage.

[yeezus]

everything said about the Pats there is still unsubstantiated and yes, hearsay. There are issues with headsets a lot, especially in bad weather.

[CyYoung31]

Not sure if you are a NE fan or not (probably); you can't be dumb or nieve enough to ignore that Bellichek cheats and always has.


·2006: Patriots security staff audio interferes with the Jaguars’ coach-to-QB communication system at “crucial moments” during a playoff game. The Lions and the Bengals also reported their coaches’ headsets stopped working during games at New England.

·2007: The Patriots are investigated for using unapproved communication frequencies to interfere with the New York Jets’ headset system.

·2008: Karlos Dansby accuses the Patriots of tampering with the Cardinals’ headset system.

·2011: Jack Del Rio has his Jaguars team practice without headset communications, as “that tends to happen in New England.”
n, coming off the heels of all of this other stuff


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...l-play-sheets/

Several former Patriots coaches and employees alleged that the team would send “low-level” employees into opposing locker rooms during pre-game warm-ups to “steal play sheets” from teams which scripted their offenses.

The report also says the team would send employees to “rummage through the visiting team hotel for playbooks or scouting reports.”

http://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-r...wgD3HxkLJDKjPg

You should read the story immediately, but the thrust is this—citing interviews with 90 sources in and around football as well as primary documents, ESPN reports that Bill Belichick and the Patriots videotaped opposing teams’ signals from 40 different games from 2000 through 2007.

I'm a Titans fan. I have no affiliation with NE whatsoever. I just don't take to heart reports of scandal based on suspicion by every team that happens to lose to them. Especially when said accusations wouldn't have meant the difference between a win or loss anyway.

I don't believe in UFOs or the Illuminati either.

[CyYoung31]

And you still haven't provided a source regarding them breaking into hotel rooms.

[yeezus]

And you still haven't provided a source regarding them breaking into hotel rooms.

it's easy to take cheap shots at them right now, that's it.
this is probably nothing.

[gilesfan]

And you still haven't provided a source regarding them breaking into hotel rooms.

The article stated they had 90 sources. I guess that's considered hearsay. Rummaging through hotel= hotel rooms. Where do you think players keep their playbooks?

[yeezus]

The article stated they had 90 sources. I guess that's considered hearsay. Rummaging through hotel= hotel rooms. Where do you think players keep their playbooks?

article says 90 sources, and these sources are? are they trustworthy or bitter? legit or made up?

[CyYoung31]

The article stated they had 90 sources. I guess that's considered hearsay. Rummaging through hotel= hotel rooms. Where do you think players keep their playbooks?

So, you assume the Patriots are criminals too.

You are great.

[NinersSBChamps]

I think it's more believable and truthful that the Patriots did and currently do shady things to gain an edge. The idea that they rummage through hotel rooms or locker rooms is much more believable than some conspiracy throughout NFL teams to make things up about New England.

[zitothebrave]

I think it's more believable and truthful that the Patriots did and currently do shady things to gain an edge. The idea that they rummage through hotel rooms or locker rooms is much more believable than some conspiracy throughout NFL teams to make things up about New England.

No but I think this is more akin to someone getting busted at a whorehouse and everyone in the lobby saying they did nothing wrong.

[gilesfan]

So, you assume the Patriots are criminals too.

You are great.

I dont assume. How many sources do you need since 90 isnt enough? How many times do they have to be punished before you believe that org cheats?

[NinersSBChamps]

No but I think this is more akin to someone getting busted at a whorehouse and everyone in the lobby saying they did nothing wrong.

I did the busting at the whorehouse.

[CyYoung31]

I dont assume. How many sources do you need since 90 isnt enough? How many times do they have to be punished before you believe that org cheats?

lol You're clearly a ****ing troll.

[NinersSBChamps]

Lol at Eli's contract.

[gilesfan]

lol You're clearly a ****ing troll.

Glad you finally admitted defeat.

[CyYoung31]

Glad you finally admitted defeat.

I'm still waiting on sources saying they performed a criminal activity by breaking into hotel rooms.

You're not even trying to debate, just troll. There's not reason to bother with you.

[Carp]

I'm a Titans fan. I have no affiliation with NE whatsoever. I just don't take to heart reports of scandal based on suspicion by every team that happens to lose to them. Especially when said accusations wouldn't have meant the difference between a win or loss anyway.

I don't believe in UFOs or the Illuminati either.

I'm a Titans fan too. I feel your pain.


But staying on topic, I think it's rather clear NE uses some pretty unethical means in order to get an edge. Now whether other teams also do it or whether it even makes a difference in the outcome is certainly up for debate. But I tend to think of like steroids or corked bats in baseball: if they don't help, then why do they do it?

[CyYoung31]

I'm a Titans fan too. I feel your pain.


But staying on topic, I think it's rather clear NE uses some pretty unethical means in order to get an edge. Now whether other teams also do it or whether it even makes a difference in the outcome is certainly up for debate. But I tend to think of like steroids or corked bats in baseball: if they don't help, then why do they do it?

No doubt, but I akin the stuff they do or supposedly do to speeding. Technically, it's illegal, but you're not going to get anything other than a fine unless you really push it.