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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Were you gonna ever post those receipts of my flip flop?
    Your whole posting career here is being a disciple of Ron Paul which would have immediately taken a position that Putin is neither right or wrong because the land was effectively usurped by a western military industrial complex that destabilizes the world for profit.

    Do you remember that sturg as you make a stupid statement like Putin was wrong for annexing Crimea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    What have learned tonight boys and girls?

    It turns out, thethe is extremely pro war... He is supportive of a nuclear power invading a small country... and he is very critical of anybody who doesn't support that.

    It turns out, Trump's position on Ukraine was quite hawkish... even threatening a US response? That's dangerous, and escalatory

    And while, RDS is a pro war monger MIC cuck for saying Putin is a war criminal... Trump took it much further, calling him an evil, genocidal monster...

    RDS just can't outwar Trump with these statements. And Trump even threatened the use of nukes! Gonna be tough to match that, but let's see if he can

    The summary is... thethe and trump are the party of peace... except Thethe strongly supports Russia's invasions, and Trump believes them to be genocidal. But then again, Trump did increase our military spending by 25%, and did threaten to do a lot of damage to Putin if he invades ukraine......

    Disconnect between the two, I hope they can work it out soon!
    Like people can’t tell the difference in your posting style those first couple of pages.

    Keep pretending you didn’t have a “Oh ****” moment in your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Your whole posting career here is being a disciple of Ron Paul which would have immediately taken a position that Putin is neither right or wrong because the land was effectively usurped by a western military industrial complex that destabilizes the world for profit.

    Do you remember that sturg as you make a stupid statement like Putin was wrong for annexing Crimea?
    Nobody ever asked me directly like you did tonight.

    My original response was Putin is going to do what he feels is best ffor Russia.

    But you didn't like that answer.

    So I told you that I believe that a nuclear power invading a small country is wrong.

    Perhaps you can find the receipts of my flip flop? Or better yet, perhaps you can find Ron Paul cheering the invasion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Like people can’t tell the difference in your posting style those first couple of pages.

    Keep pretending you didn’t have a “Oh ****” moment in your mind.
    typically our debates start off normal... i act in good faith. i ask you for eveidence of your delusions that you just create out of thin air.

    you never can. then you get mad and attack me.

    then i start mocking you like i do all the lefitist idiots on this site

    rinse and repeat... we've made quite a habbit of recently. But my ankle is healing and i won't be bed ridden for much longer. so you will start to get a break from being embarassed
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Nobody ever asked me directly like you did tonight.

    My original response was Putin is going to do what he feels is best ffor Russia.

    But you didn't like that answer.

    So I told you that I believe that a nuclear power invading a small country is wrong.

    Perhaps you can find the receipts of my flip flop? Or better yet, perhaps you can find Ron Paul cheering the invasion?
    So what happens sturg in a world where we just launched a coup in Ukraine. Now we punish Putin for retaliating against us? He’s the bad guy? And you can’t see how childish that thought process is?
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    Every single criticism you have either embellished or completed created out of thin air against RDS... I have shown that Trump had as big, or most of the time, a worse offense, on the exact criticism.

    And each time you have just excused them away.

    quite hilarious but actually pathetic.

    you know what you believe but you have no idea why
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    Man I actually hope at this point desantis becomes president because when he starts another war we can come back to this when in the same exact timeline as my debates with the leftist idiots on the board the opposing side thought I was hysterically wrong and crazy. Then over time I end up being right and you never admit it like a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So what happens sturg in a world where we just launched a coup in Ukraine. Now we punish Putin for retaliating against us? He’s the bad guy? And you can’t see how childish that thought process is?
    Sturg doesn't suport a coup in Ukraine.

    But that milk is spilled.

    Sturg doesn't support us getting involved in Russia's retaliation.

    But that ship has sailed.

    Both sturg and RDS have said that we should not be involved.

    I am still unclear on why those positions upset you so much
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    https://rollcall.com/2018/08/14/trum...ia-and-crimea/

    Hey look. The position of a person who was the best foreign policy president in a century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Sturg doesn't suport a coup in Ukraine.

    But that milk is spilled.

    Sturg doesn't support us getting involved in Russia's retaliation.

    But that ship has sailed.

    Both sturg and RDS have said that we should not be involved.

    I am still unclear on why those positions upset you so much
    If RDS position is Russia was wrong to take Crimea then there will be no ceasefire. There will only be WW3 and you’re too infected to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Man I actually hope at this point desantis becomes president because when he starts another war we can come back to this when in the same exact timeline as my debates with the leftist idiots on the board the opposing side thought I was hysterically wrong and crazy. Then over time I end up being right and you never admit it like a child.
    I hope he does too.

    And I am under no delusion that he isn't more hawkish than I want him to be.

    What I know is that Trump himself said he would have involved the US if Russia invaded Ukraine... I don't believe RDS has said that, has he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If RDS position is Russia was wrong to take Crimea then there will be no ceasefire. There will only be WW3 and you’re too infected to see it.
    US presidents can take a position on a foreign event (from 10 years ago...) without launching a war. you know that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I hope he does too.

    And I am under no delusion that he isn't more hawkish than I want him to be.

    What I know is that Trump himself said he would have involved the US if Russia invaded Ukraine... I don't believe RDS has said that, has he?
    You still don’t understand what the statement of Putin was wrong to invade crimea means for negotiations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    US presidents can take a position on a foreign event (from 10 years ago...) without launching a war. you know that right?
    How does a ceasfire happen sturg without giving up portions of eastern Ukraine and Crimea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You still don’t understand what the statement of Putin was wrong to invade crimea means for negotiations.
    Well I'm still waiting for you to post all the receipts of my celebrating his invasion. perhaps that will jog my memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How does a ceasfire happen sturg without giving up portions of eastern Ukraine and Crimea?
    When the US stops funding the Ukranians, Ukraine will have no choice
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    https://www.rferl.org/amp/trump-blam.../29588249.html

    How an expert handles the fact the US illegally overthrew a democratically elected state.

    He doesn’t say the opposition was wrong to take land back for people that are ethnically the same and didn’t want the foreign powers to overthrow their land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    When the US stops funding the Ukranians, Ukraine will have no choice
    We aren’t going to stop finding this. The only way it ends is a peace deal.
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    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/26/p...nce/index.html

    Are you starting to understand whj trump was the best foreign policy president of the last 100 years?

    And now we are on the heels of WW3 and we got amateur hour saying Putin was wrong to annex Crimea. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/26/p...nce/index.html

    Are you starting to understand whj trump was the best foreign policy president of the last 100 years?

    And now we are on the heels of WW3 and we got amateur hour saying Putin was wrong to annex Crimea. Pathetic.
    He literally condemned it in April of 2022
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