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The players union always fights against a hard cap but I have to think there's a way to get them on board. First, divide the TV revenue evenly among every team and institute a salary floor. Basically shift some of the money being spent away from the Dodgers and Yankees and to the Marlins and Pirates. Second, increase the revenue sharing with the players. Use revenue sharing with the players union to guarantee just as much if not more money goes to the players. Yes it would be evenly distributed so the truly elite players would end up with less than they get now but the vast majority of players would end up with more. Finally, increase the major league minimum and make all players eligible for arbitration after 2 years.

I think you can find ways to get the players union on board.

Your ideas make sense and I would be on board.

Unfortunately, when given a choice between distributing money more equally among a greater number of players or focusing on maximizing salaries for free agent stars, the MLBPA has chosen the latter nearly every time.
 
I love all this media talk (especially Passan and ESPN) about how the Dodgers bought themselves a "super team" yet they are STILL 6 wins behind the Braves in the Fangraphs projections, even after committing to over a billion dollars to 2 players.
 
I love all this media talk (especially Passan and ESPN) about how the Dodgers bought themselves a "super team" yet they are STILL 6 wins behind the Braves in the Fangraphs projections, even after committing to over a billion dollars to 2 players.

How much does fangraphs give the pitcher in projection?
 
I love all this media talk (especially Passan and ESPN) about how the Dodgers bought themselves a "super team" yet they are STILL 6 wins behind the Braves in the Fangraphs projections, even after committing to over a billion dollars to 2 players.

I wouldnt even call them a superteam. They're very good, but the bottom of the lineup has questions, as does the bullpen, and the rotation could blow up in their face. It is kinda hard to have a superteam in baseball.
 
I wouldnt even call them a superteam. They're very good, but the bottom of the lineup has questions, as does the bullpen, and the rotation could blow up in their face. It is kinda hard to have a superteam in baseball.

Right... that's my point and why I put super team in quotes... they spent money consistent with a super team but they are still falling short.
 
I love all this media talk (especially Passan and ESPN) about how the Dodgers bought themselves a "super team" yet they are STILL 6 wins behind the Braves in the Fangraphs projections, even after committing to over a billion dollars to 2 players.

It’s the annual “everyone else got better and the Braves didn’t” takes that everyone conveniently forgets they had when the Braves are 10 games up in July.
 
How much does fangraphs give the pitcher in projection?

Yamamato is projected for 3.4. Glasnow at 3.7

With those two additions the FG projections has the Dodgers starting staff projected for 15.3 while the Braves are at 15.1

I suspect the Braves will have 2 of the top 5 starters in the NL in 2024.
 
I’m not aware of any billionaire running a sports organization at a loss other than perhaps Cohen with the Mets. Maybe guys who run horse racing outfits operate at a loss, but I suspect those stables make a nice bit of coin.
 
I’m not aware of any billionaire running a sports organization at a loss other than perhaps Cohen with the Mets. Maybe guys who run horse racing outfits operate at a loss, but I suspect those stables make a nice bit of coin.

You would probably be surprised at how many in that industry are living hand-to-mouth, relatively speaking. Not so much the owners, as almost all of them are doing it for play money, a tax write-off, or both. But many of the big name trainers are one down year or major suspension from bankruptcy. You just can't win enough to be in the red consistently in horse racing. My family did it on a very small scale when I was younger, had a few wins and several nice purses, and got out of it fairly quickly because of how fast they were burning through cash. It almost makes private aviation seem like a wise investment.

I heard a story last week of a very well-known trainer with multiple triple crown race victories who frequently has to borrow money from the guy who transports his horses. It wasn't the first time I'd heard something like that.
 
The New York Mets must pay a record luxury tax of nearly $101 million after a fourth-place finish in their division, among an unprecedented eight teams that owe the penalty for the 2023 season

The Braves are paying $3.6 million.
 
You would probably be surprised at how many in that industry are living hand-to-mouth, relatively speaking. Not so much the owners, as almost all of them are doing it for play money, a tax write-off, or both. But many of the big name trainers are one down year or major suspension from bankruptcy. You just can't win enough to be in the red consistently in horse racing. My family did it on a very small scale when I was younger, had a few wins and several nice purses, and got out of it fairly quickly because of how fast they were burning through cash. It almost makes private aviation seem like a wise investment.

I heard a story last week of a very well-known trainer with multiple triple crown race victories who frequently has to borrow money from the guy who transports his horses. It wasn't the first time I'd heard something like that.

There is an old joke within the industry:

"Do you know the secret to becoming a millionaire in the thoroughbred industry? Begin as a billionaire."

The 80s saw an end to most of the tax breaks that made the thoroughbred industry a wise investment. In the last decade there have been a handful of owners that have tried to clean up some of the grift that occurs in the industry. "Wild Ride" is a fascinating look at the downfall of Calumet Stables (think NY Yankees of horse racing). Well worth the read even if you aren't a horse racing fan. It lays out many of the ways in which the "owners" are fleeced by the "horsemen".
 
There is an old joke within the industry:

"Do you know the secret to becoming a millionaire in the thoroughbred industry? Begin as a billionaire."

The 80s saw an end to most of the tax breaks that made the thoroughbred industry a wise investment. In the last decade there have been a handful of owners that have tried to clean up some of the grift that occurs in the industry. "Wild Ride" is a fascinating look at the downfall of Calumet Stables (think NY Yankees of horse racing). Well worth the read even if you aren't a horse racing fan. It lays out many of the ways in which the "owners" are fleeced by the "horsemen".

Our horses were all cheap claimers, so there wasn't big money to be made even if they had been elite for their level. But we learned really quickly that those horses running with a $5,000 tag cost just as much to feed and had just as many vet bills as the Derby contenders.

But I have some pretty cool pictures to hang on my office wall, and as a teenager I had access to the keg they kept at the barn, so it was a net positive for me.
 
Anybody have a guess as to where Snell ends up and how much?

I realize no chance AA goes after him- just curious - would love to have him though
 
Anybody have a guess as to where Snell ends up and how much?

I realize no chance AA goes after him- just curious - would love to have him though

Last I heard, the Giants and Angels were talking to him. Wonder if he wants to stay on the west coast. Still wondering if him or Montgomery may be an option for AA since they’d be lefty options.
 
Snell and Bellinger are in the same boat as they wanna be paid based on last years performance. They are both super inconsistent so their contract is gonna be tricky.
 
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