Around Baseball 2024 edition

CrimsonCowboy said:
He’s almost certainly going to be one of the bigger names rumored to be going elsewhere. Question is whether the White Sox be willing to trade him. This is going to be similar to the Dylan Cease rumors of last year at the deadline. The White Sox need to start over. They’re going nowhere fast. That would be a reason to trade Robert. Get prospects in trades to help their rebuild.

As always though, the questions are will they deal him and what will the asking price be?
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Almost certainly too high of asking price. They probably don't even want to start talking unless we are willing to start with an offer of Waldrep and AJSS.
 
Robert is an interesting target. He's signed for $15 MM for 2025 and has team options at $20 MM for 2026 and 2027 (both with $2 MM buyouts). I think the options are really going to push up the acquisition price because the acquiring team is going to have a lot of flexibility with him. He's be great (and would fulfill a need) for the Braves this season, but beyond this year he makes the OF situation crowded and the set of machinations surrounding the acquisition of Kelenic look short-sighted (unless they let Ozuna walk and cycle through the DH position with the extra OF).

Add to that cajun's point about what it will take for the Braves to pry him away from the White Sox and I just don't see it happening. I've been surprised by Anthopoulos' moves in the past and maybe he pulls a rabbit out of his hat. I just don't see the White Sox biting unless Smith-Shawver goes in the deal and maybe with Waldrep rocketing toward the majors, the Braves feel that asking price isn't too high.
 
50PoundHead said:
Robert is an interesting target. He's signed for $15 MM for 2025 and has team options at $20 MM for 2026 and 2027 (both with $2 MM buyouts). I think the options are really going to push up the acquisition price because the acquiring team is going to have a lot of flexibility with him. He's be great (and would fulfill a need) for the Braves this season, but beyond this year he makes the OF situation crowded and the set of machinations surrounding the acquisition of Kelenic look short-sighted (unless they let Ozuna walk and cycle through the DH position with the extra OF).

Add to that cajun's point about what it will take for the Braves to pry him away from the White Sox and I just don't see it happening. I've been surprised by Anthopoulos' moves in the past and maybe he pulls a rabbit out of his hat. I just don't see the White Sox biting unless Smith-Shawver goes in the deal and maybe with Waldrep rocketing toward the majors, the Braves feel that asking price isn't too high.
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I would think Acuna starts DHing more and more starting next season
 
msstate7 said:
I would think Acuna starts DHing more and more starting next season
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This. We are in a tough spot bc Ozuna has been so good and his option is cheap for next year and the clubhouse guys love him. But when Ronald comes back i think you see him start to DH more and more with both ACL’s being redone.
 
msstate7 said:
I would think Acuna starts DHing more and more starting next season
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Being in the field isn't going to be Acuna's issue going forward. He's already gave up being a plus defender out there. It's him being wreckless on the bases that's the problem.
 
as long as he can play defense at a league average, he will be in RF.. he is just as likely to damage the ligament running the bases as he is playing in the field.. but I think halting him from stealing bases and doing stupid things like that, then it balances out him being allowed to play the field. At least while the Braves allow Ozuna to play out the option.

The big question is will the FO force Twit to stop him or will they just let a kid go out and play the way he has always played because it is 1980 and there is no data suggesting the contrary.
 
my fear is that they won't stop him though.. if they were allowing him to steal in SPRING TRAINNG then I don't have great confidence they will stop him after yet another torn ACL.
 
msstate7 said:
I've saw him leap for a ball just like the one where he got injured.
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I know he used to leap a lot as part of his showmanship personality.. it is about the spectacular versus the efficient. I wish Andruw could teach what he did.. he didn't care about making a play look spectacular but more about making a spectacular play look easy. I would love to see a study (I feel it could be done easily) where running through a play is just as similar to all these sliding/jumping catches... it is the same thing, imo, as sliding into first.. it was proven it doesn't really get you there faster. I have watched the play in 2019 a 100 times and there is zero to convince me that he simply running through that play would have made the catch more probably and easier versus that stutter step then jump crap he did..
 
50PoundHead said:
Robert is an interesting target. He's signed for $15 MM for 2025 and has team options at $20 MM for 2026 and 2027 (both with $2 MM buyouts). I think the options are really going to push up the acquisition price because the acquiring team is going to have a lot of flexibility with him. He's be great (and would fulfill a need) for the Braves this season, but beyond this year he makes the OF situation crowded and the set of machinations surrounding the acquisition of Kelenic look short-sighted (unless they let Ozuna walk and cycle through the DH position with the extra OF).

Add to that cajun's point about what it will take for the Braves to pry him away from the White Sox and I just don't see it happening. I've been surprised by Anthopoulos' moves in the past and maybe he pulls a rabbit out of his hat. I just don't see the White Sox biting unless Smith-Shawver goes in the deal and maybe with Waldrep rocketing toward the majors, the Braves feel that asking price isn't too high.
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The Kelenic machinations were largely a flyer without a whole lot of risk. You wouldn't not make moves based on that and Kelenic's cost was largely front loaded, so keeping him around as a bench piece is neglible going forward.
 
Southcack77 said:
The Kelenic machinations were largely a flyer without a whole lot of risk. You wouldn't not make moves based on that and Kelenic's cost was largely front loaded, so keeping him around as a bench piece is neglible going forward.
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It's neglible after this season, but we are currently carrying a lot of dead money as a result of acquiring him because we are paying players that are playing somewhere else.
 
Wonder if Andrew McCutchen wants to chase a ring and if he could play LF at all? He's still hitting pretty well overall with a good amount of pop.
 
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