Affordable Care Act

57Brave said:
why so cheap in 2013?

What did and didn't the policy cover?
Were you (no snark intended) paying the full amount or was part of your employment agreement that your HC would be supplemented?
Do you smoke?
Any other health issues?
I take it you are single
Where do you live(I know you said before - but like Zeet says, I will need help in a couple years ) ?

Once again, if the 78-9% number was a systemic and not an outlier would you agree your claim would not be the only one we hear?
Reason I say that is I have heard of rises in people of your age group -- but your 78-9% rise is the most drastic one I've seen or heard of. Again, of 78-9% increases were at all common If it were Fox would have a 24/7 stream of victims. Leading me to believe -- something is not right

Is that understandable?
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I don't know what to tell you man. I've gone over time and time again the justification of our company for raising premiums. It's because they had to offer a basic health plan for all employees, where previously, they didn't have to.

It's a great policy, covers everything I need
I assume my employer was subsidizing and still is
I don't smoke, but our employer (starting in 2014) is charging 40% more to folks who do smoke unless they go to some sort of class or something
Completely healthy
Single
Arlington, VA

It's not an outlier. I have about 20 friends in the area and 3/4ths of them are seeing an increase this year.

Perhaps I should go on to fox and start a book tour
 
sturg33 said:
Here's the numbers:

In 2013 I paid $28 per check for my health, vision, and dental. I get paid 26 times a year

In 2014, I pay $50 per check for health, vision, and dental. Still get paid 26 times a year

The ObamaCare exchange offered me comparable insurance for $246 a month. I paid $61 a month in 2013 and am paying $108 a month this year. The deductible was twice as much as well.

So I'll ask one last time, how could I have avoided that 78% increase?
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You can't. But sheesh if that is just basic insurance for Obamination Care, that is very expensive. Might as well get COBRA, which covers everything for a bit more.

Thank goodness for my work, we only saw an increase from $86 to $105 a month for the family with slight increase in deductible, but dental went way up.
 
AerchAngel said:
You can't. But sheesh if that is just basic insurance for Obamination Care, that is very expensive. Might as well get COBRA, which covers everything for a bit more.

Thank goodness for my work, we only saw an increase from $86 to $105 a month for the family with slight increase in deductible, but dental went way up.
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Cobra can help some folks, but more times than not its a last alternative. It is also just a continuation of your current coverage, not a new plan.
 
Since my health insurance is premium, meaning everything outside of help in reproduction, I wonder how much it was cost with Obamacare per month?
 
Mine went up a reasonable amount...people at my company who are married, have kids, and/or take prescriptions paid the brunt of the increase (I'm single, no kids, no drugs). Even after the increase, I'm still much better off than what I'd get under the ACA.
 
acesfull86 said:
Mine went up a reasonable amount...people at my company who are married, have kids, and/or take prescriptions paid the brunt of the increase (I'm single, no kids, no drugs). Even after the increase, I'm still much better off than what I'd get under the ACA.
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Same
 
Interesting tidbit... L&H dept is moving most insureds from fully funded plans, to self insured funds. Rates are better, and can still UW the medicals.
 
How is Obamacare looking better?

Obamacare by itself will probably be the major factor in the dem's losing the senate.

Have they ever released the % of people who have signed up and have actually paid?
 
Krgrecw said:
How is Obamacare looking better?

Obamacare by itself will probably be the major factor in the dem's losing the senate.
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+1.

It seems when the only news you plug-in to is from MSNBC you find yourself existing in a dimension bereft of reality.
 
And this is what conservatives have never understood. They act as if reforming health care is a mere matter of drawing up a health-care plan on paper and rounding up the votes, something they could do anytime they really feel like getting around to it, rather than a Herculean political task. They further convinced themselves that administering the new law would prove devilish if not impossible. They had it backwards.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/obama-declares-obamacare-victory.html

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I read a book many years ago about how the American Army continually goes to war tactically fighting the last war.
People that were once uninsured and had no access to health care now have insurance and have access to health care. Let the political wins and losses happen.
LBJ said when signing Civil Rights of 65 he was handing the government over to (R) for a generation. As much as I cant stand the hole (R) has dug us into what we got out of that hole is a society that l no longer turns a blind eye to institutional discrimination . So, lose the Senate -- and insure people and provide health care and preventive medicine to those that didnt have that access a couple years ago - I'll take that.
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Probably find a few more sources sayingthe same as the earlier post.
I wish someone would post where the MS er's got something wrong --- factually wrong. Not you disagree with the sentiment wrong.
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2 words.
Benghazi
 
57Brave said:
But as “Obamacare” starts to look a whole lot better than it did a few months ago, conservatives are switching gears a bit. In fact, the new argument from the right is nothing short of amazing: conservatives are attacking the ACA for not being liberal enough.



http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-the-right-attacks-the-aca-the-left
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That link right there torpedo your argument.

ANything from or from Faux new is nothing but talking pieces and crap. With Rachel Maddow makes it even worse.
 
and this

another Faux crisis debunked. Dont like MSNBC or Huff or TP or Mother Jones try bland ass Politico. RedState doesn't even use Obamacare as a topic any longer and Daily Caller well, let me say just this - they pose the question "Who Is the Real Hillary Clinton"
Maybe I'll go to WND or check out Rush Limbaugh --- because those are the last of the deniers -- except for a few here that can' (how you say) keep up
anyway this is in response to those that didn't read the first post on this topic to day and dismissed it when they saw the publisher.
Quick quiz --- who is Steve Benen and what is he know for?

Bottom line is after all is said and done the opponents , even on this board , oppose the law because it is not liberal enough.
Somethig tells me this isn't about health care afterall

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But most individuals who lost plans probably would not have continued them even without the law, according to the study, which was published online Wednesday in Health Affairs. Its author questions whether those cancellations contributed much to the nation’s ranks of short-term uninsured.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/...-act-canceled-plans-105964.html#ixzz2zl7TaN39
 
AerchAngel said:
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That link right there torpedo your argument.

ANything from or from Faux new is nothing but talking pieces and crap. With Rachel Maddow makes it even worse.
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I really dont think this is about health care afterall. Never have because as we get to the later innings the evidence is stacked in the laws favor
 
57Brave said:
I really dont think this is about health care afterall. Never have because as we get to the later innings the evidence is stacked in the laws favor
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Liberal sheeps do what they do best is to take any information from their masters the media and run with it.

Continue to fight the fight Don Quixote.
 
What fight ? That fight is over --- the law is becoming more ingrained in American life every day.
Which leads me to ask, what is the opposition , opposing --- really?
 
Wednesday, Apr 23, 2014 09:20 AM EST
Poll: Americans really love Obamacare’s birth control coverage

According to a new poll, nearly 70 precent of Americans support the birth control requirement of the Affordable Care Act. (Take that, Hobby Lobby.)

The survey, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association reveals that 69 percent of respondents supported “mandated coverage of birth control medications in health plans.”

As Tara Culp-Ressler at ThinkProgress notes, this isn’t the first survey to find strong support for contraceptive coverage. Another recent poll found that two thirds of female voters don’t believe that for-profit corporations like Hobby Lobby or Conestoga Wood Specialties should be allowed to deny their employees birth control coverage.

More from the survey, which found that people “unlikely to use such coverage” were the most likely to say they didn’t support birth control coverage:

Overall, 69% of respondents supported mandated coverage of birth control medications in health plans, with significantly higher odds of support among women, black, and Hispanic respondents. Support for mandated coverage of birth control medication was lower than for other benefits, including services that have prompted public debate (eg, vaccination and mental health services). The small group who supported coverage for services except birth control medication included a higher proportion of persons unlikely to use such coverage. [...]

In this study, the majority of participants supported universal coverage of birth control medications, as well as mandated coverage of several other services. These results are similar to prior polls describing support for the contraceptive coverage mandate among 61% to 66% of US adults.4- 6 In this study, women, black, and Hispanic respondents were more likely to support coverage of birth control medication benefits than men, older respondents, and adults without children younger than 18 years.

Katie McDonough is an assistant editor for Salon, focusing on lifestyle. Follow her on Twitter @kmcdonovgh or email her at kmcdonough@salon.com.
 
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